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(44,333 posts) Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:02 AM Apr 2015

Robert Kennedy Jr. warns of vaccine-linked ‘holocaust’ [View all]

With lawmakers preparing to vote on a bill blocking parents from skipping vaccinations for their children, prominent vaccine skeptic Robert F. Kennedy Jr. arrived at the Sacramento screening of a film linking autism to the vaccine preservative thimerosal and warned that public health officials cannot be trusted.

“They can put anything they want in that vaccine and they have no accountability for it,” said Kennedy, who walked onto and left a Crest Theater stage to standing ovations, of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Wednesday afternoon will see the first hearing for a bill eliminating the personal belief exemption parents can cite in order to avoid vaccinating their kids. Senate Bill 277 was prompted by soaring exemption rates in some schools districts and outbreaks of long-dormant diseases like measles and whooping cough.

Kennedy has credited the film Trace Amounts with helping to persuade lawmakers to halt a vaccination measure in Oregon. Advocates offered free Trace Amounts tickets to every California lawmaker, visiting offices in the State Capitol on Monday to drop them off. Three rows cordoned off for lawmakers sat empty on Wednesday evening, though some staff members attended.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article17814440.html

Oh look, anti-vax asshat RFK Jr. is pimping an anti-vax movie. And he's working against SB277 in California.

Shocked. Shocked I am.

Sid

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Robert Kennedy Jr. warns of vaccine-linked ‘holocaust’ [View all] SidDithers Apr 2015 OP

holocaust, my ass. I posted this the other day. Glad you're posting it again. cali Apr 2015 #1

Sorry, I missed it... SidDithers Apr 2015 #2

thanks. really appreciate Orac. cali Apr 2015 #3

"Thimerosal: Let The Science Speak" shows Orac is wrong, as does CDC scientist Dr. Bill Thompson. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #35

Ah, that Thompson non-story again. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #38

Your assertion that 'Andrew Wakefield is the Carl Sagan of his generation' ... SidDithers Apr 2015 #39

That's your response? Really? proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #42

Nope... SidDithers Apr 2015 #47

Heard of Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis? That's Kennedy's analogy to the reception to Wakefield's work. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #53

thanks for showing up to the thread, it just wouldn't be the same snooper2 Apr 2015 #88

Thanks for being cordial; the focus on RFK Jr's opinions are a diversion from the facts he presents. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #143

No they're not. zappaman Apr 2015 #144

OBJECTIVE FACTS (post #35) he exposes are not erased by his blunt inflammatory OPINIONS (OP title). proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #147

Agreed. Anyone who brings up Wakefield or Thompson in regards to thimersol has already Smithryee Apr 2015 #54

Uh, that would be Dr. Paul Offit. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #90

CDC vaccine safety scientist Dr. William W. Thompson researched MMR and thimerosal BOTH. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #97

Did they ask this whistleblower to cover up studies showing harm or just stop sharing his opinion? yurbud Apr 2015 #60

Why ask me? What have you learned? Read around and please share. Developing... proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #85

this isn't a primary issue for me, so I hoped that someone paying more attention yurbud Apr 2015 #157

Asks for evidence, but "trust no one!11!!!" Oneironaut Apr 2015 #67

Few read the actual science; most, therefore, lack understanding of the limitations and flaws ~RFKjr proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #87

RFK jr. is still parading his discredited thimerosal nonsense, alp227 Apr 2015 #104

Ten years of new peer-reviewed research trump the retractions by Salon & Rolling Stone in 2005. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #125

Thompson has been discredited, too. alp227 Apr 2015 #127

Snopes trumps allegations by a whistleblower/law firm prior to a formal Congressional investigation? proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #136

Not this woo s#!$ again mcar Apr 2015 #4

Apparently never. mmonk Apr 2015 #14

It's been going on since I was a little kid (and I fought in WWII) MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #17

Even in the 1950's the anti-polio vaccines were called a "communist plot." Archae Apr 2015 #51

What in the world is Mental Hygiene? Psychology? DawgHouse Apr 2015 #152

I have no idea. Archae Apr 2015 #153

Geez, I did a little research but I don't understand why DawgHouse Apr 2015 #154

Just watch "Dr Strangelove," the character Jack Ripper was an example of this mentality. Archae Apr 2015 #155

Asshats will be asshats. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #5

The David Irving of vaccine woo nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #6

a very good comparison. cali Apr 2015 #7

has he wendylaroux Apr 2015 #8

yes. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2015 #36

Flamebait, flamebait! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #9

He should do *my* fucking job. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #10

Eventually he'll become so unhinged he'll be toxic, the fate of most demagogues. randome Apr 2015 #11

Dude needs to buy a clue. He's done a lot of good environmental stuff, but . . . hatrack Apr 2015 #12

Wow. Orrex Apr 2015 #13

Ug. Wish he would use his family name for good instead of evil. nt SunSeeker Apr 2015 #15

UnAnimous billhicks76 Apr 2015 #16

born autistic? How does she know that? cali Apr 2015 #19

Because He's A Teenager Now billhicks76 Apr 2015 #158

I have a Rhino whistle MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #20

Quit blowing that damn thing! Orrex Apr 2015 #72

Duh! billhicks76 Apr 2015 #159

Documented cases go back to the 1700's. mmonk Apr 2015 #22

I feel for anyone with an autistic child.... HOWEVER groundloop Apr 2015 #25

Just An Anecdote billhicks76 Apr 2015 #160

1) Kids are not "born autistic". It can't be diagnosed until they are older. jeff47 Apr 2015 #26

You're Kidding, Right? ProfessorGAC Apr 2015 #27

I Didn't Say I Believe Or Not billhicks76 Apr 2015 #161

science, you should learn it nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #31

Learn To Read First billhicks76 Apr 2015 #162

Diagnostic criteria for autism have changed in recent years LeftishBrit Apr 2015 #40

Because in actual clinical studies, children who are vaccinated are not anymore likely to get autism Kurska Apr 2015 #44

"I ate a sandwich when I was pregnant. Sandwiches cause autism." Oneironaut Apr 2015 #68

are you going to respond to anyone? snooper2 Apr 2015 #89

Dude, it's cellphones that cause autism. Duh. progressoid Apr 2015 #124

Or it could just be that it's better recognized sakabatou Apr 2015 #146

I wondered that but billhicks76 Apr 2015 #163

How did a Kennedy manage to lose his mind? treestar Apr 2015 #18

huh? there is a lot of evidence that the Kennedy's have had more than their share cali Apr 2015 #21

They are human beings just like the rest of us, only born rich. arcane1 Apr 2015 #56

Heroin is a helluva drug Major Nikon Apr 2015 #76

I knew him just after Bobby was assasinated in 1968. COLGATE4 Apr 2015 #108

There's another one running around desperately trying to save the drug war and pot prohibition. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #140

No, Bobby, you are wrong. mountain grammy Apr 2015 #23

Oh fer Christ sake. onecaliberal Apr 2015 #24

It would seem that his issue is not with vaccines but with the preservative 'thimerosal'. Go RFKJr! NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #28

Thimerosal hasn't been in childhood vaccinations for years with the exception of the flu vaccine cali Apr 2015 #29

It's not in children's flu mist, at all. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #46

It's not in anything that is single use Major Nikon Apr 2015 #78

True. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #79

Most vaccines do NOT contain thimerasol nowadays... LeftishBrit Apr 2015 #43

It never was a problem anyway Major Nikon Apr 2015 #83

Exactly... SidDithers Apr 2015 #84

Not just easier, cheaper Major Nikon Apr 2015 #105

Flu shots do HockeyMom Apr 2015 #91

Most kids don't get them, though. LeftishBrit Apr 2015 #107

ONLY the multi-dose vials. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #132

Merthiolate - Isn't that the stuff our parents put on us kids when we cut ourselves LiberalArkie Apr 2015 #126

because its an organic compound of mercury. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #134

Thalidomide? LOL. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #129

Well they both start with "Th". Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #149

Well, Warren, Ignaz Semmelweis washed his hands once... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #156

says something about how much you know about this issue. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #135

The anti vexer cause has unified the fringe left and the fringe right. iandhr Apr 2015 #30

I had mumps shenmue Apr 2015 #32

Nuttier than squirrel shit hifiguy Apr 2015 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author raindaddy Apr 2015 #34

The only Kennedy that impressed me died in 68 CBGLuthier Apr 2015 #37

“They can put anything they want in that vaccine and they have no accountability for it.” valerief Apr 2015 #41

I almost feel sorry for someone as fucking stupid as RFK Jr. zappaman Apr 2015 #45

But he's a Kennedy... SidDithers Apr 2015 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author mnhtnbb Apr 2015 #109

I would say too bad there's no vaccine for stupidity. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #121

I feel more pity for people's stupid fucking posts... MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #130

Awwww...poor RFK Jr is a fucking whack job zappaman Apr 2015 #138

We lost the wrong son Politicalboi Apr 2015 #48

Call some other Democrat, ''Asshat,'' siddithers of DU. Octafish Apr 2015 #50

He's woefully wrong on this. (RFK Jr) cali Apr 2015 #52

He hasn't damaged anyone except Big Pharma. Octafish Apr 2015 #58

yes he has. He's almost certainly convinced some folks not to vaccinate their children cali Apr 2015 #69

Big pharma! zappaman Apr 2015 #75

Well SOMEONE needs to DAMAGE big pharma!!! onecent Apr 2015 #165

And this has what to do with the price of tea in China? Archae Apr 2015 #55

Where does he say not to vaccinate? Octafish Apr 2015 #61

"I'm not anti-vaxx, but we've got a holocaust on our hands." NuclearDem Apr 2015 #70

According to octafish of DU... SidDithers Apr 2015 #63

If your last name is Kennedy, you're never wrong! zappaman Apr 2015 #74

Keep tugging your forelock, octafish of DU... SidDithers Apr 2015 #57

Smear Once. Use Often. Octafish Apr 2015 #62

If the shoe fits....nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #65

It doesn't count until someone calls you SidOrrex. Orrex Apr 2015 #94

Wait, I thought they were calling YOU sidorrex... SidDithers Apr 2015 #99

He's Sidorrex. You're Skitthers. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #106

None of that matters anymore. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #119

Attribution, damn it! REP Apr 2015 #92

It's not a smear if it's true Freddie Stubbs Apr 2015 #151

Sid… Did you lose something? MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #131

Ha! The official RFK Jr beanie! zappaman Apr 2015 #139

You're welcome! MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #148

I figure you're probably the only one in this discussion who might bother snappyturtle Apr 2015 #64

Thank you, snappyturtle! I'm a person who likes to learn more than one side of things. Octafish Apr 2015 #110

Thank you Octafish...my sentiments exactly. I used to come to DU to learn snappyturtle Apr 2015 #120

I personally like him and loved his father. But, of course, he is wrong on this issue mmonk Apr 2015 #66

It's possible to be a good man and be wrong. Oneironaut Apr 2015 #71

Why must Sid be on the hot seat? Orrex Apr 2015 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #77

You "just signed up" for about the gazillionth time. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2015 #81

Lulz..nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #166

I like him on a lot of other issues, but he's destroying his credibility here. yurbud Apr 2015 #59

I really wish Robert Kennedy Jr. would just STFU about his anti-science campaign against vaccines. still_one Apr 2015 #80

Was Kennedy ever vaccinated or are germs just unable to survive in toxic levels of stupid? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #82

Since he was born in 1954. HockeyMom Apr 2015 #86

I had an MMR in California last month and now I am dead. REP Apr 2015 #93

Yeah, I am dead too HockeyMom Apr 2015 #103

Go ask my half-brother about pertussis. Oh you can't because he died from it. REP Apr 2015 #112

I got DPT vaccine in 1952 HockeyMom Apr 2015 #114

Well, you are either very strong or lucky or both LeftishBrit Apr 2015 #145

Then he's a fuckin' kook. tabasco Apr 2015 #95

I don't know which group is worse, anti-vaxers or climate change deniers. nt Rex Apr 2015 #96

Well only one of them has put in an appearance in this thread. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #115

NASA was going to go to war with the Mooninites! How hard is that to understand!? Rex Apr 2015 #117

LOL! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #118

Im not convinced there isn't some serious overlap btw the two groups. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #142

Oh, FFS. Remind me, please, where RFK, Jr. got his medical degree? Right. mnhtnbb Apr 2015 #98

Yeah, but he's a Kennedy and a Democrat... zappaman Apr 2015 #100

He's a f#cking politician! Would you go to one for heart surgery? Knee or hip replacement? mnhtnbb Apr 2015 #101

He may be a "f#cking politician" but he is a Kennedy. zappaman Apr 2015 #102

I get it. See post #45. mnhtnbb Apr 2015 #111

Magna sum laude from the Unversity of Talking out the Ass REP Apr 2015 #113

LOL! mnhtnbb Apr 2015 #122

Science: Not a democracy beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #116

Law & Order SVU had a great show this week on this topic. William769 Apr 2015 #123

He's destroyed Ring of Fire's credibility Adenoid_Hynkel Apr 2015 #128

What.a.fucking.moron. *sigh* n/t X_Digger Apr 2015 #133

Let me just say LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #137

It's good that they're scheduling it for the spring, cuz in the fall it might compete with PETA's Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #141

He could be right. Vinca Apr 2015 #150

Bashing the Kennedys is nothing new, though you might think you're entitled to ucrdem Apr 2015 #164

Yeah I'll remember that ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #167

. Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #168

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. apologizes for 'holocaust' remark in speech against California vaccine law proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #169