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In reply to the discussion: In case people don't have a good understanding of what a supermax is, it is torture. [View all]
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=40097#.VSaNqO29Kc1
http://io9.com/why-solitary-confinement-is-the-worst-kind-of-psycholog-1598543595
Yes, it is torture. It destroys a person's mind.
18 October 2011 A United Nations expert on torture today called on all countries to ban the solitary confinement of prisoners except in very exceptional circumstances and for as short a time as possible, with an absolute prohibition in the case of juveniles and people with mental disabilities.
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Solitary confinement is a harsh measure which is contrary to rehabilitation, the aim of the penitentiary system, he stressed in presenting his first interim report on the practice, calling it global in nature and subject to widespread abuse.
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Considering the severe mental pain or suffering solitary confinement may cause, it can amount to torture or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment when used as a punishment, during pre-trial detention, indefinitely or for a prolonged period, for persons with mental disabilities or juveniles, he warned.
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Solitary confinement is a harsh measure which is contrary to rehabilitation, the aim of the penitentiary system, he stressed in presenting his first interim report on the practice, calling it global in nature and subject to widespread abuse.
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Considering the severe mental pain or suffering solitary confinement may cause, it can amount to torture or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment when used as a punishment, during pre-trial detention, indefinitely or for a prolonged period, for persons with mental disabilities or juveniles, he warned.
http://io9.com/why-solitary-confinement-is-the-worst-kind-of-psycholog-1598543595
Human beings are social creatures. Without the benefit of another person to "bounce off of," the mind decays; without anything to do, the brain atrophies; and without the ability to see off in the distance, vision fades. Isolation and loss of control breeds anger, anxiety, and hopelessness.
Indeed, psychologist Terry Kupers says that solitary confinement "destroys people as human beings." A quick glance at literature review studies done by Sharon Shalev (2008) and Peter Scharff Smith (2006) affirms this assertion; here are some typical symptoms:
Anxiety: Persistent low level of stress, irritability or anxiousness, fear of impending death, panic attacks
Depression: Emotional flatness/blunting and the loss of ability to have any "feelings", mood swings, hopelessness, social withdrawal, loss of initiation of activity or ideas, apathy, lethargy, major depression
Anger: Irritability and hostility, poor impulse control, outbursts of physical and verbal violence against others, self, and objects, unprovoked angers, sometimes manifested as rage
Cognitive disturbances: Short attention span, poor concentration and memory, confused thought processes, disorientation
Perceptual distortions: Hypersensitivity to noises and smells, distortions of sensation (e.g. walls closing in), disorientation in time and space, depersonalization/derealization, hallucinations affecting all five senses (e.g. hallucinations of objects or people appearing in the cell, or hearing voices when no one is speaking
Paranoia and psychosis: Recurrent and persistent thoughts, often of a violent and vengeful character (e.g. directed against prison staff), paranoid ideas (often persecutory), psychotic episodes or states, psychotic depression, schizophrenia
Self-harm: self-mutilation and cutting, suicide attempts
Indeed, psychologist Terry Kupers says that solitary confinement "destroys people as human beings." A quick glance at literature review studies done by Sharon Shalev (2008) and Peter Scharff Smith (2006) affirms this assertion; here are some typical symptoms:
Anxiety: Persistent low level of stress, irritability or anxiousness, fear of impending death, panic attacks
Depression: Emotional flatness/blunting and the loss of ability to have any "feelings", mood swings, hopelessness, social withdrawal, loss of initiation of activity or ideas, apathy, lethargy, major depression
Anger: Irritability and hostility, poor impulse control, outbursts of physical and verbal violence against others, self, and objects, unprovoked angers, sometimes manifested as rage
Cognitive disturbances: Short attention span, poor concentration and memory, confused thought processes, disorientation
Perceptual distortions: Hypersensitivity to noises and smells, distortions of sensation (e.g. walls closing in), disorientation in time and space, depersonalization/derealization, hallucinations affecting all five senses (e.g. hallucinations of objects or people appearing in the cell, or hearing voices when no one is speaking
Paranoia and psychosis: Recurrent and persistent thoughts, often of a violent and vengeful character (e.g. directed against prison staff), paranoid ideas (often persecutory), psychotic episodes or states, psychotic depression, schizophrenia
Self-harm: self-mutilation and cutting, suicide attempts
Yes, it is torture. It destroys a person's mind.
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In case people don't have a good understanding of what a supermax is, it is torture. [View all]
F4lconF16
Apr 2015
OP
This sort of false dichotomy seems to be a standard talking point in favor of torture.
Vattel
Apr 2015
#126
It is a totally mystery how other countries manage it without resorting to torture.
Luminous Animal
Apr 2015
#178
tell it to the organized criminals when you invite them to live in your basement...
pipoman
Apr 2015
#181
It is a total mystery how other countries manage not to torture their prisoners
Luminous Animal
Apr 2015
#184
It's designed to disorient inmates and sticks them in solitary for 23 hours a day.
NuclearDem
Apr 2015
#6
I wonder how the prisons would operate if none/large numbers of us didn't pay taxes.
Nuclear Unicorn
Apr 2015
#20
Or maybe the reduced revenue will force a reexamination of national priorities.
Nuclear Unicorn
Apr 2015
#207
I am deterred by not only repercussions for bad acts, but the desire to make the future better
seveneyes
Apr 2015
#45
The problem with people who say "I don't care what happens to {fill in the blank}" . . .
markpkessinger
Apr 2015
#88
Are you seriously suggesting that F4lconF16's op was motivated by race?
beam me up scottie
Apr 2015
#30
I've been homeless I slept outside I walked around hours at night when it was cold
JonLP24
Apr 2015
#225
Maybe to not be deliberately subjected to psychological torture for the rest of his life.
NuclearDem
Apr 2015
#91
Maybe we could take a lesson from the Norwegians? Humane treatment even of the worst, and
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#269
In his case, I would be willing to bet on it. He was 19 years old. He has a lot of growing to
morningfog
Apr 2015
#282
Subjecting someone to 23 hours a day of sensory deprivation and lack of social contact
NuclearDem
Apr 2015
#211
Yeah, please petition William769 if you feel like it. We got it unlocked earlier. Enough response...
F4lconF16
Apr 2015
#265
Did you ever get an explanation from William regarding your petition to unlock? nm
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#276
Funny how none of you apologists for this killer can answer the simple question.
cwydro
Apr 2015
#105
I suspect if he was a white American Christian we wouldn't be having it either
brooklynite
Apr 2015
#107
I guess you'd volunteer to work in one of the country club establishments....
Historic NY
Apr 2015
#69
"the people on this board who seem to support this man who killed innocents"
beam me up scottie
Apr 2015
#118
Well according to you, we wouldn't care if he was a white American christian.
beam me up scottie
Apr 2015
#127
As I recall, a number of people were complaining about "police states" during the search
brooklynite
Apr 2015
#137
The whole "cut off from society for the remainder of his natural life" bit seems to be enough
Spider Jerusalem
Apr 2015
#139
"I don't see the need for making that worse than it is, because I'm not a monster"
beam me up scottie
Apr 2015
#149
There's no rape by other inmates...because there's no interaction with other prisoners...
brooklynite
Apr 2015
#154
And social animals banish members who prove unable to live within the society.
brooklynite
Apr 2015
#166
Life in prison with no possibility of parole is what I suggest they should do to him.
Spider Jerusalem
Apr 2015
#129
We're not talking about prisoners who are persistent threats to other inmates, here.
Spider Jerusalem
Apr 2015
#175
If people truly understood, they would find a way to channel a need for vengeance in another way..
AuntPatsy
Apr 2015
#122
Recently I have been hit with life changing events, my emotions, fears, beliefs have become altered
AuntPatsy
Apr 2015
#159
My sister had to testify in a rape trial, one of many she had already testified in considering her
AuntPatsy
Apr 2015
#219
I'm sorry, but how much juggling would be required to make life in prison NOT "torture"?
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2015
#183
Jail isn't torture. Jail should be a miserable experience which deters people from wanting to go.
RealityAdvocate
Apr 2015
#190
If people actually prefer prison to the real world, and choose to go there...
RealityAdvocate
Apr 2015
#248
Do you have any idea what 23 hours a day of sensory deprivation does to the mind?
NuclearDem
Apr 2015
#205
The United Nations has called American supermax prisons "inhumane and degrading"
Xithras
Apr 2015
#221
Waterboarding is torture. I'm not sure I agree that isolation is. Many Supermax inmates, as your
stevenleser
Apr 2015
#210
And for folks who are a threat to other inmates, they should. Not sure with other folks. nt
stevenleser
Apr 2015
#229
And here I thought opposition to the DP should come from it being cruel and inhumane...
NuclearDem
Apr 2015
#244
Your thread has some astonishing replies..isolation is understood even by Justice Kennedy who
Jefferson23
Apr 2015
#249
Many enjoy the Two Minute Hate, and your OP just diminishes their enjoyment. [n/t]
Maedhros
Apr 2015
#255
I am advocating supermax prison time for any guilty person of a horrible crime.
GOLGO 13
Apr 2015
#258
Really? Are you saying that you don't use the lame justification "disruptive meta" as a catch-all
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#283