Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

Showing Original Post only (View all)

MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
Sat May 5, 2012, 12:23 PM May 2012

MSNBC hurts the liberal/progressive cause [View all]

I know many on here like some of the shows on MSNBC. Heck, I even like to watch Rachel every now and again, she is pretty much the only one that I can kind of stand. But MSNBC, like all corporations, wants to make profit. That is its priority.

In this country, 40% of people identify as conservative. Fox saw this and saw a business opportunity. Corner the conservative 24/7 news market with biased entertainment reporting. Done. MSNBC came later to the game, and saw the untapped (though relatively smaller market) of liberals (only 20% of the country identifies themselves as such). Well, they have cornered it, and with a lot of success. Indeed, as their viewership has risen, it has driven them to take a more biased tone.

Is it quite as biased or partisan as Fox? No, but then again, the left in this country is relatively moderate and small, so it doesn't need to be. But MSNBC isn't doing this out of the goodness of its heart. It is doing it for profit, pure and simple.

Increasingly, I find myself having to battle false equivalencies with others. They are everywhere of course, that the Democrats are just the same as Republicans, that Fox is the same as MSNBC, etc. The thing is, I kind of agree (to a point) with this argument anymore. No, Democrats aren't just the same as Republicans, but they aren't far apart on a lot of issues, and in terms of tactics and strategy, well, Obama just got a Super PAC. And I don't want corporations like MSNBC to represent liberals, because their motives are wrong as are their tactics. I don't want to be the flip side of Fox News, even if it's not quite as heavy handed about it.

I don't want entertainment/opinion shows that stretch and bend the truth to fit a partisan bias to represent liberals. Or that have bombastic/rude hosts that appeal to emotion to win out over logic and facts. And some MSNBC hosts do this quite a lot now, even my beloved Rachel at times. The fact that it is all motivated by profit really underlines it for me as well. That this is a corporate strategy to pay shareholders, pure and simple.

Yes, MSNBC hosts do tell the truth as well, and some might say it is best to fight fire with fire in a sense. In our broken political and media system, they may be right from a purely tactical viewpoint. But in the process MSNBC is doing a lot of harm to liberal causes by supposedly representing them. It breeds cynicism if you ask me.

30 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Strongly disagree Cooley Hurd May 2012 #1
I don't have cable, so I may be more of an honest broker than some. But coalition_unwilling May 2012 #2
Disagree. Faygo Kid May 2012 #3
Disagree on many of your points. Scuba May 2012 #4
So sit in a corner and keep very, very quiet. That way tsuki May 2012 #5
Stronly disagree. Tennessee Gal May 2012 #6
Nonsense tularetom May 2012 #7
Everyone must understand that minutes on any media network are commodities HereSince1628 May 2012 #8
True, people are sold propaganda they agree with, not encouraged to take a broad view just1voice May 2012 #27
Um...yeah. WilliamPitt May 2012 #9
Okay....what am I supposed to watch? Zax2me May 2012 #10
Try RT America if you're actually interested in news just1voice May 2012 #26
MSNBC is owned in part by the MIC (GE) think May 2012 #11
I agree with your points - but I don't agree with your conclusion Douglas Carpenter May 2012 #12
Strongly disagree. Waiting For Everyman May 2012 #13
MSTHC sofa king May 2012 #14
I'll take MSNBC anyday goclark May 2012 #15
I disagree .... Spazito May 2012 #16
rubbish DURHAM D May 2012 #17
This is obviously part of a concerted attack on MSNBC, yesterday against Rachel specifically. AtomicKitten May 2012 #18
Not in my case, I like watching some of Maddow inbetween the commercials just1voice May 2012 #28
MSNBC has more than their share of RW apologists on all their "liberal" shows rurallib May 2012 #19
I look at them the same way I look at the Democratic Party Enrique May 2012 #20
MSNBC is the propaganda arm of the DLC corporate party establishment. Odin2005 May 2012 #21
I'm Grateful For Any Progressive Voices on Air otohara May 2012 #22
Your premise relies rather heavily on a false equivalence. MSNBC is an establishment outlet TheKentuckian May 2012 #23
As If The Airwaves Are Awash With Liberal Commentators. Paladin May 2012 #24
You are 100% correct, all MSM in the U.S. is pure propaganda just1voice May 2012 #25
You're right. Don't forget what MSNBC stands for, neither corporation is in any way socialist. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #29
FAIL..nt and-justice-for-all May 2012 #30
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»MSNBC hurts the liberal/p...