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me b zola

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50. "Loathsome"
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:03 PM
Apr 2015


Disclaimer: I do not speak for every Adoptee

I identify many different ways. For example, I identify as a woman, who happens to work in a STEM field. There are times I have conversations with people that are uniquely shaped with what I have experienced as a woman working in a male dominated field. I can give statistics, I can explain how it feels to know I make less than my coworkers, I can explain how I've been in situations where my gender has influenced my coworkers to ignore my thoughts and ideas, and I can state my experiences as the only woman on a six man team. I never have to say "and of course not all women working in a STEM field feel this way". It's accepted that I'm speaking based on my experiences. I've never had to qualify or defend my feelings. My male coworkers except it. They've seen it. And they value my opinion on the matter. I've even had some adjust their behavior because of these conversations.

Yet somehow, I often have to defend my feelings or experiences when I'm talk about adoption. There's always the disclaimer "Not all adoptees feel this way", or "I'm only speaking for myself here". Why is that? Why is it that when another adoptee says something we don't agree with, the first thing we see is another adoptee jumping in and saying "Well, I don't feel this way" or "You don't speak for me". Why do we do this to one another? I see this all the time. Adoptee A pours their heart out on the Internet (or sometimes in real life). This takes immense personal courage. Then Adoptee B chimes in "Well I don't feel that way!" and leaves it at that. The conversation is over. There is no dialog, no explanation. Just a wish to express that they feel differently without any context or without wanting to further the discussion. They don't seek to understand or communicate, they seek to drop something that to me appears to be silencing. I read that as "You don't speak for me, so stop speaking!"



As an adoptee, I don't speak for you. I speak for ME. I speak to my experience and what I feel and how I think about adoption. But somehow, that gets overlooked. First, I thought it was because there are so few adoptees that people may only speak to one adoptee in their entire life. But really, that's not the case. Taking out the people I've met through the online adoption community, there are four adoptees in my adoptive family (counting myself). My elementary school class had four or five adoptees. My parents' friends were adoptive parents in some cases. I grew up around adoptees to a certain extent and I don't view us as being some mythical creature that everyone only meets one of during their lives. Sorry, but I don't buy that.

Maybe it's because we often don't speak openly about adoption. Adoption is DEEPLY personal for so many of us. For me, it encompasses who I am as a person. It defines so much of who I am and how I grew up. Talking about something so personal and at times raw is difficult. Maybe that's why a lot of adoptees shy away from the topic of adoption. To some, it's not something they care to discuss for a variety of reasons. For others, it's something they've tried to speak about before, but are encouraged to stop for a variety of reasons. Maybe some of it comes from the fact that we're constantly being told that our view isn't the only view about adoption. It gets tiring. Really really tiring. Because of course my view on a complex subject isn't the only view! I think that's obvious. And yet people keep pointing it out, as a way of silencing. It's not just the adoptive parents, the natural parents, and the bystanders, it's other adoptees who are doing it!

~more @ link~ http://www.thelostdaughters.com/

And of course the most obvious smack down of your hateful reply is that it was not MY OP, but I posted Another adoptees article.
But of course, human decency varies #Loathsome

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Every child handles adoption differently TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #1
I doubt non adoptive children feel much different Egnever Apr 2015 #2
Well, you just summed it up... me b zola Apr 2015 #3
Upset me? Egnever Apr 2015 #4
Pretending that adoptee issues are no different from non-adoptees is harmful me b zola Apr 2015 #16
Unfortunately, some adoptees have inherited TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #25
^^^Your second paragraph^^^ Hekate Apr 2015 #35
interesting, thx for posting Mosby Apr 2015 #5
WTF? SomethingFishy Apr 2015 #6
Please do not insult my adoptive parents, they have done nothing to you me b zola Apr 2015 #7
Step back and pretend that it's not about the parents' egos. Gormy Cuss Apr 2015 #8
It's Possible RobinA Apr 2015 #43
I think the article is written from a painful perspective Gormy Cuss Apr 2015 #44
Happy to hear that you would never adopt me b zola Apr 2015 #52
My adopted kids are still teens TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #24
Far from a universal truth Somethingtosay Apr 2015 #9
I heart fairy tales me b zola Apr 2015 #10
I respect your experience Somethingtosay Apr 2015 #11
I feel special that your first post to DU was to my thread me b zola Apr 2015 #13
Oy Somethingtosay Apr 2015 #15
Welcome to DU. NOLALady Apr 2015 #27
23&me Somethingtosay Apr 2015 #29
Welcome to DU. Sincerely. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #31
Welcome to DU. I hope to see you around. Hekate Apr 2015 #36
Welcome to DU! Adrahil Apr 2015 #42
But couldn't self-selection be at work here? The adoptees who come to meetings pnwmom Apr 2015 #20
These were the bullies as I grew up, these fucking stooges me b zola Apr 2015 #21
What happened to you was evil. No child is an "it." And no child should ever pnwmom Apr 2015 #22
Your grandmother was hateful because she was Irish? Mariana Apr 2015 #30
yeah, that what I said me b zola Apr 2015 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Apr 2015 #38
You carry around a lot of pain. TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #26
Welcome to DU, Somethingtosay! n/t pnwmom Apr 2015 #19
Thanks for the link to a passionate, thought-provoking essay. pnwmom Apr 2015 #12
Thank you for being a consistent voice for adoptees me b zola Apr 2015 #14
this article is too stupid to comment on. Invented syndrome. kwassa Apr 2015 #17
Please don't adopt...or if u do make sure its a puppy me b zola Apr 2015 #18
This sort of mean-spiritedness--not discussion of adoptee issues-- Heidi Apr 2015 #46
The views expressed in the article are FAR from universal, Heidi Apr 2015 #23
Honest to God, posting about adoptee issues is like an episode of Bill Mahers republican in a bubble me b zola Apr 2015 #28
I agree with you on many issues TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #37
Thank you for that very kind, experienced and reasoned post! Heidi Apr 2015 #47
Thank you. :) TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #48
Oh my, your hatred is showing me b zola Apr 2015 #51
I read and understood the article. Heidi Apr 2015 #53
she is describing her experience and projecting it onto every adoptee cali Apr 2015 #40
+ a whole bunch cali Apr 2015 #41
So, I guess being in foster care is far better for abandoned kids AnnieBW Apr 2015 #33
Apparently posting from an adoptee POV is the ultimate Rorschach test me b zola Apr 2015 #34
generalizing, particularly to this extent is pretty fucked up cali Apr 2015 #39
And daring to confront such a sweeping generalization Heidi Apr 2015 #45
"Loathsome" me b zola Apr 2015 #50
I am adopted and I think this article is right for some and wrong for others el_bryanto Apr 2015 #49
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