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92. I've noticed that, it is pretty disturbing. nt

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:35 PM

Apr 2015

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EDIT - I've seen this faulty assumption that you have to have labor rights, before you can have civil rights...and that is not only wrong, but completely ass backwards.

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Why I don't think the phrase/argument white privilege is effective. [View all] cali Apr 2015 OP

I think you do need a multifaceted approach el_bryanto Apr 2015 #1

It's the word Cayenne Apr 2015 #2

Most who are privilaged regardless of race TexasProgresive Apr 2015 #3

agree Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #4

Link to anyone using "white privilege" in their campaigning? bettyellen Apr 2015 #74

Probably no one is that dumb, which kind of makes the OP's point. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #81

No, it shows how moot it is. Discussing white privilege is not the problem- bettyellen Apr 2015 #97

The typical framing and presentation of privilege is ineffective RedCappedBandit Apr 2015 #5

It's a huge oversimplification B2G Apr 2015 #6

I'm shocked that DU'ERS that have problems .. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #9

LOL Like Coach on "New Girl" said to whatshisname, "you wont get it" NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #40

isn't catch phrase a catch phrase? lame54 Apr 2015 #32

don't be an idiot - of course it's not lame54 Apr 2015 #33

Have been white and poor my entire life. And yes, it is hard to see "privilege" from here but I did jwirr Apr 2015 #7

So, how would you put it, as to not offend someone? nt boston bean Apr 2015 #8

Call attention to the income inequality issue. ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #11

oh, so black persons should not discuss factors contributing boston bean Apr 2015 #12

I was giving the response I suspect. ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #14

My pattern? Go ahead just say it. cali Apr 2015 #18

Okay, you have a pattern of entering ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #58

Yep. Number23 Apr 2015 #98

oh, I thought it was the person I replied to...responding to me... boston bean Apr 2015 #25

I guess I was too quick. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #60

No, that's not what I'm suggesting. cali Apr 2015 #16

It's not about offending. It's about not alienating. cali Apr 2015 #13

Good let's start with the. .. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #17

There's plenty of that. I prefer to point out the structures of institutional racism cali Apr 2015 #19

Facts are generally not so vigorously disputed. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #31

So the facts are clear, but reason they are facts isn't fair game? boston bean Apr 2015 #34

Sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #37

The "facts" of man-influenced climate change 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #59

So you are worried about alienating white privileged assholes who wont admit they have NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #41

"the invisible knapsack" foo_bar Apr 2015 #27

Why not simply return to the New Left language TM99 Apr 2015 #71

I get what you are saying; but, ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #80

That we is those of us during the 60's, 70's and 80's TM99 Apr 2015 #84

Yes. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #88

Thank you. n/t Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #83

I really appreciate this post - best I've seen around here all year Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #105

SO then what do you suggest? What term should we use to describe white privilege? Rex Apr 2015 #10

Yeah, I think that's better, but I'd stress the simple facts through examples that point out cali Apr 2015 #15

I've never equated white privilege with income, it seems to be insulting to all POC imo. Rex Apr 2015 #23

Bingo, Rex! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #61

I am glad you and I see eye to eye on this issue. Rex Apr 2015 #87

You said earlier ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #89

I've noticed that, it is pretty disturbing. nt Rex Apr 2015 #92

White privilege, was developed and adopted after Professor nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #99

I think it is also used as a mechanism to avoid tangible action. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #20

More often it's used as a mechanism to beat people over the head and deflect discussion Major Nikon Apr 2015 #30

its a paradox olddots Apr 2015 #21

There is only 1 war in America, bvar22 Apr 2015 #22

and once that happens, racism/sexism/anti-semitism/homophobia disappears... boston bean Apr 2015 #28

Probably not, but Economic Fairness and Political Representation for EVERYONE .. bvar22 Apr 2015 #36

So it it will not, as you agree, why can't it be addressed? boston bean Apr 2015 #38

+1 Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #106

I have noticed that Americans in general don't like to acknowledge their privilege BainsBane Apr 2015 #24

You make a good point. What we call it means nothing as long as LittleBlue Apr 2015 #26

Funny how no one made these arguments boston bean Apr 2015 #29

Did you mean to reply to me? LittleBlue Apr 2015 #66

yes I did mean to reply to you. boston bean Apr 2015 #67

What exactly did you think my post meant? LittleBlue Apr 2015 #68

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #78

How do Asians fit into the discussion? elias7 Apr 2015 #35

Good point. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #39

You are not supposed to mention that. nt kelly1mm Apr 2015 #52

+1. Totally screws up the narrative. (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #79

As long as you insist on seeing the issue in one dimensional terms BainsBane Apr 2015 #56

I actually see the issue as hopelessly multi dimensional elias7 Apr 2015 #102

How about a Federal Commission on Istitutional Racism? cali Apr 2015 #42

No way the GOP would ever go for it, if it needed bipartisan approval. However I think that is a Rex Apr 2015 #43

This is as bad as Benghazi. Haven't you said this over and over and over and over again?? kwassa Apr 2015 #44

I think you are correct. This isn't the first such post explaining how boston bean Apr 2015 #45

lol. which is why I said I wholeheartedly agree that white privilege is real cali Apr 2015 #47

You agree it's real, it just shouldn't be talked about... boston bean Apr 2015 #48

make more shit up, my dear friend. cali Apr 2015 #49

I'm making this up? boston bean Apr 2015 #51

You are making up that I said it should never be talked about. do point out where I say that, hon. cali Apr 2015 #53

You just say that it's off putting and that there has to be another way.... boston bean Apr 2015 #55

what bullshit. you really do love angels on pinheads. cali Apr 2015 #62

The proof is in the posts cali. Read them. boston bean Apr 2015 #63

No. what the fuck are you talking about? I've done nothing but condemn the benghazi bullshit cali Apr 2015 #46

It is called an analogy. You didn't understand the analogy. kwassa Apr 2015 #64

golly. funny that you won't respond to my post proving your accusations are a stinking pile. cali Apr 2015 #50

it is effective with all in my sphere that are thinkers. it is not effective with a man defending seabeyond Apr 2015 #54

Sure, for people who are unable to see past the end of their own nose, I suppose it is a Sheldon Cooper Apr 2015 #57

In the words of Louis CK Alittleliberal Apr 2015 #65

It's divisive... Blanks Apr 2015 #69

Racism is not about people being jerks. kwassa Apr 2015 #72

Yes, it's clearly too complex for me. Blanks Apr 2015 #75

There are many variables in discrimination. kwassa Apr 2015 #77

I have plenty of friends of color... Blanks Apr 2015 #107

Oh wow gollygee Apr 2015 #108

Blanks is bringing context to his views Blue_Adept Apr 2015 #112

That's not my experience... Blanks Apr 2015 #113

Where did I say that there aren't black attorneys, etc? gollygee Apr 2015 #114

You're right... Blanks Apr 2015 #115

i understand what you are saying. m-lekktor Apr 2015 #70

The problem is the 'white privilege' folks have not articulated marle35 Apr 2015 #73

Actually it has been explained to the nth degree nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #100

I agree. The term seems deliberately chosen to provoke a defensive response, Orrex Apr 2015 #76

If there's one way to piss off a broke and/or unemployed white person, Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #82

It's *a* lens but it's not *the* lens XemaSab Apr 2015 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #90

Dreadlocks? ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #93

as a black person... Kali Apr 2015 #94

Your experience, not my experience Rolando Apr 2015 #96

The term and concept has never bothered me. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #86

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #91

We're all shocked. Really. Number23 Apr 2015 #95

I dislike the term because... ReasonableToo Apr 2015 #101

As you say, white privilege absolutely does exist. delrem Apr 2015 #103

i agree in that it is disempowering treestar Apr 2015 #104

The more we discuss certain issues the more commonplace they become..... NCTraveler Apr 2015 #109

No mere phrase is going to be effective at anything more than gaining our attention. Orsino Apr 2015 #110

I don't see anything wrong with the phrase itself romanic Apr 2015 #111