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morningfog

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113. That's not the question.

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:49 AM

Apr 2015

My math was wrong too. If the bombings had been 1 year and 9 months earlier e wouldn't be death eligible.

If you read the cases in which the Supreme Court rules that minors can't be out to death or be sentenced to automatic life without parole, you will see that the reason is based in the science of brain development. The brain is not fully developed until around the age of 25.

It goes to the culpability, impulsivity, inability to make proper decisions, inability to stave off negative influence. The same reasons we don't kill a 15 year old should be considered for anyone under 25. Everyone's brain develops differently.

I do not believe anyone, ever, no matter how henious the crime, should be sentenced at one time to never be released. Everyone should have at least the possibility to be considered for parole. Even if they never get out, it incentivizes rehabilitation on a personal level.

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If you could choose the sentence for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev..... [View all] Nye Bevan Apr 2015 OP

Is he particularly violent or good at escape? jberryhill Apr 2015 #1

Well, he has a precedent of pretty serious violence. Gangly tho he may look. nt Xipe Totec Apr 2015 #16

Yeah, I don't think he'll be building many bombs in any prison jberryhill Apr 2015 #17

Would the other prisoners be a threat to him? mythology Apr 2015 #123

I never understood the appeal of the death penalty -- Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2015 #2

Can you picture eight kids being held hostage in a school somewhere Yupster Apr 2015 #129

life in prison but what jail he serves in the authorities can determine. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #3

Life without parole Vogon_Glory Apr 2015 #4

Yep, that's what someone else mentioned to me today, let him live out his RKP5637 Apr 2015 #84

I would choose Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #5

He had his fair trial. Nt hack89 Apr 2015 #126

Life without parole in regular prison. hifiguy Apr 2015 #6

it seems to me that this young man can be rehabilitated.... mike_c Apr 2015 #7

Thank you. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #13

Interesting JonLP24 Apr 2015 #47

Thanks for that link. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #103

"prison should not be about punishment"- sorry, but fuck that. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #98

Rehabilitated? LisaL Apr 2015 #48

Irrelevant. Has nothing to do with possibility of rehabiltaion in the future. HERVEPA Apr 2015 #51

Really? I think it might very well have EVERYTHING to do with it. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #96

If he has yet to show remorse, I think it has everything to do with it TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #116

Id rather not risk it Travis_0004 Apr 2015 #54

Then we'd need to send him to another country because we don't do that here in America justiceischeap Apr 2015 #111

I don't know. I do know it wouldn't be either of the first two options. closeupready Apr 2015 #8

He's said he wants to be a martyr. I would deny him that. riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #9

Still on the fence on Supermax KamaAina Apr 2015 #10

Okay, I'm off the fence. No supermax. KamaAina Apr 2015 #68

I'd just end it Aerows Apr 2015 #11

There's a painful truth to this. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #14

The death penalty in this country is not quick csziggy Apr 2015 #124

This was a silly alert. zappaman Apr 2015 #19

Discussions at DU are being shut down for silly alerts like that. Mika Apr 2015 #20

Not it is not. Not by a long shot. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #21

Lol from the poster here since 2012, since that decidedly is when things were "good" on DU. Agschmid Apr 2015 #26

Ahem, I've been a DUer since 2005. Thanks for your comment, though. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #28

Cool! What was your name before? zappaman Apr 2015 #30

Well not on this account. Agschmid Apr 2015 #31

Nope, not on this account. Nick changed when allowed by admins in 2009 after shrub and last when I ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #33

And I said change can be good. Agschmid Apr 2015 #37

I merely offered my opinion Aerows Apr 2015 #23

You wanted... TeeYiYi Apr 2015 #82

TYY Aerows Apr 2015 #93

yw ..nt TeeYiYi Apr 2015 #94

No they aren't... Agschmid Apr 2015 #25

Do you have a problem Aerows Apr 2015 #42

Those weren't humane ways. Agschmid Apr 2015 #44

Tell me what you consider humane, then Aerows Apr 2015 #59

A trial by his peers and then jail. Agschmid Apr 2015 #69

He is having a trial by his peers Aerows Apr 2015 #70

Well there you go then... Agschmid Apr 2015 #71

Choice of Words Aerows Apr 2015 #72

Not waiting for anything it's clear where you stand... Agschmid Apr 2015 #73

yes let's put "air quotes" around the "bad word" used about the "guy" who Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Apr 2015 #110

I agree with you. cwydro Apr 2015 #45

I don't know what I'd do with the dude Aerows Apr 2015 #61

Yup. cwydro Apr 2015 #85

some in this thread are deeply offended and disturbed that folks here are calling the shitstain Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #100

The one of rampant homophobia and misogyny? Fearless Apr 2015 #50

Where on earth Aerows Apr 2015 #62

I guess offering an opinion Aerows Apr 2015 #22

A good chunk of this place has gone off the rails, to a certain extent. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #105

I hate the death penalty but yes, really dumb alert. HERVEPA Apr 2015 #53

A ridiculous alert. Those that alert because they can't tolerate differing opinions. DU is RKP5637 Apr 2015 #86

Silly alert. 840high Apr 2015 #91

Nope, you must love the other countries who execute people. None I admire. nt Logical Apr 2015 #79

Hello there Aerows Apr 2015 #80

It does tell a lot. DP is a terrible thing. Look at the list. Get back to me. nt Logical Apr 2015 #83

Vacillating between parole or not treestar Apr 2015 #12

Killing him gains us nothing. madamesilverspurs Apr 2015 #15

Yeah, I felt that way about Tim McVeigh jberryhill Apr 2015 #18

He was interviewed at length 2naSalit Apr 2015 #88

You don't get the perspective of time jberryhill Apr 2015 #89

Actually... 2naSalit Apr 2015 #90

I oppose the death penalty in all cases. Blue_In_AK Apr 2015 #24

Life in a solitary cell with moondust Apr 2015 #27

Wow. closeupready Apr 2015 #32

How long do you think he'd survive general population? NightWatcher Apr 2015 #29

He is a dead man walking in. Wrong kind of infamy in this country. Rex Apr 2015 #35

" he might get some protection from the muslim gangs" Fearless Apr 2015 #49

There is every kind of gang under the sun in big prisons. nt hifiguy Apr 2015 #60

He's not clever or smart or dangerous enough to be in supermax. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #34

If I understand his actions and guilt correctly. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #36

Supermax prisons are horrible Kalidurga Apr 2015 #38

I have not followed the trial, but did he express ANY sense or remorse? Skittles Apr 2015 #39

Not according to the prosecution. LisaL Apr 2015 #55

OK Skittles Apr 2015 #56

I would choose life without parole in a federal prison. Jenoch Apr 2015 #40

So long as he never knows one moment of freedom again, I don't care what they do with him. WillowTree Apr 2015 #41

Life, no parole. Not Supermax. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2015 #43

That's my position too. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #52

My position Aerows Apr 2015 #63

Note that I said "not solitary" Spider Jerusalem Apr 2015 #64

And I'm not disagreeing with you Aerows Apr 2015 #66

Life with the possibility of parole Fearless Apr 2015 #46

Public safety seems a legitimate social objective for prison HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #57

Killing people isn't a valid religious belief. Fearless Apr 2015 #74

yes, that's certainly the narrative from dominant culture HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #76

His religious right to jihad doesn't extend to killing and maiming people with bombs mythology Apr 2015 #125

He wants the death penalty so he can be seen as a martyr Terra Alta Apr 2015 #58

Life without parole. Period. DinahMoeHum Apr 2015 #65

I chose life without parole because I oppose the death penalty BainsBane Apr 2015 #67

Life with parole possibility. roamer65 Apr 2015 #75

I don't think we gain anything by applying death penalty. I'd let him earn little bit better prison Hoyt Apr 2015 #77

I Like exposing the "progressives" who support the DP. Many names not a shock. nt Logical Apr 2015 #78

It's interesting as long as one does not crack open a notebook and record names... ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #81

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #87

he's makin a list, he's checkin it twice.... Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #99

Sounds like you got a lot of "free time". romanic Apr 2015 #118

I am opposed to DP and mandatory Life without parole. morningfog Apr 2015 #92

Had the bombings occurred 9 months earlier, would he have been any less reprehensible? brooklynite Apr 2015 #109

That's not the question. morningfog Apr 2015 #113

Freedom then becomes an abstract concept... brooklynite Apr 2015 #117

Persons convicted of murder (even multiple murders) are released on parole morningfog Apr 2015 #121

I am always of two minds on this type of topic. Jamastiene Apr 2015 #95

�That�s Jane with two legs,� he said of his 6-year-old daughter. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #97

I don't believe in the death penalty or 'life' sentences, but I do believe in 'indefinite' sentences Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #102

Life without parole. Death penalty will give him about 15 years of appeals. Paper Roses Apr 2015 #104

Death penalty certainly makes for a more costly appeal. morningfog Apr 2015 #106

Life in Supermax (nt) bigwillq Apr 2015 #107

time like this I appreciate the "show usernames" option DrDan Apr 2015 #108

Agreed! Now we can clearly identify torture advocates... Marengo Apr 2015 #122

Most folks don't hide their feelings. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #127

I'm rather surprised by some who are advocating the DP or life in the supermax... Marengo Apr 2015 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #131

Not Supermax LynnTTT Apr 2015 #112

I don't want him to become LibertyLover Apr 2015 #114

Cake. Orsino Apr 2015 #115

Death or Supermax romanic Apr 2015 #119

Life without parole in supermax rollin74 Apr 2015 #120

Any of the first three options suit me Shrek Apr 2015 #130