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In reply to the discussion: Airline Pilots: Is Anybody Interested in Being One? [View all]HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)44. well, then:
http://www.angelfire.com/al/silverball/strikes.html
Before 1982, Greyhound was a prosperous company that prided itself on paying the highest wages in the industry.
Deregulation of the transportation industry made the competition for passengers even stiffer. New entrepreneurs who paid low wages entered the business and offered fare prices much lower than the more established inter-city lines.
The newly deregulated airline industry made things even worse for Greyhound.
Low-cost passenger airline carriers sprang up after deregulation of the industry and gave intercity bus lines a run for their money. People Express, for example, charged only $23 for a flight between New York City and Buffalo. Greyhound charged $41 for the trip. A flight by Southwest Airlines from San Francisco to Phoenix was only $60, compared to a Greyhound's bus ticket to the same location costing $79. By the middle of 1983, Greyhound showed an operating loss of $18 million. Greyhound's operating costs were 30 to 50 percent higher than that of other major bus lines.
A painful seven-week strike had come to an end just a few days before Christmas. But the ATU had suffered a major defeat that would haunt it for years to come. It had to settle for the same 7.8 percent wage cut the company had insisted on way back in November. In addition, the union had to swallow a cut in pay from ten to eight percent per year; a four percent cut in pension benefits, and a two-tier pay schedule that paid new hires 20-25 percent less than employees under the old contract.
Greyhound, on the other hand, boasted that it had gained the wage parity it had been seeking, yet at the same time paid the highest wages in the industry. At that time, labor costs amounted to about 62 percent of total operating costs. The union's concessions had brought the company about an eight- percent reduction in bus line operating expenses over the life of the new three-year contract.
Before 1982, Greyhound was a prosperous company that prided itself on paying the highest wages in the industry.
Deregulation of the transportation industry made the competition for passengers even stiffer. New entrepreneurs who paid low wages entered the business and offered fare prices much lower than the more established inter-city lines.
The newly deregulated airline industry made things even worse for Greyhound.
Low-cost passenger airline carriers sprang up after deregulation of the industry and gave intercity bus lines a run for their money. People Express, for example, charged only $23 for a flight between New York City and Buffalo. Greyhound charged $41 for the trip. A flight by Southwest Airlines from San Francisco to Phoenix was only $60, compared to a Greyhound's bus ticket to the same location costing $79. By the middle of 1983, Greyhound showed an operating loss of $18 million. Greyhound's operating costs were 30 to 50 percent higher than that of other major bus lines.
A painful seven-week strike had come to an end just a few days before Christmas. But the ATU had suffered a major defeat that would haunt it for years to come. It had to settle for the same 7.8 percent wage cut the company had insisted on way back in November. In addition, the union had to swallow a cut in pay from ten to eight percent per year; a four percent cut in pension benefits, and a two-tier pay schedule that paid new hires 20-25 percent less than employees under the old contract.
Greyhound, on the other hand, boasted that it had gained the wage parity it had been seeking, yet at the same time paid the highest wages in the industry. At that time, labor costs amounted to about 62 percent of total operating costs. The union's concessions had brought the company about an eight- percent reduction in bus line operating expenses over the life of the new three-year contract.
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Aren't most commercial pilots recruited out of the military? They can't fly or read guages?
leveymg
May 2012
#1
They can't fly cross-country with just a compass, alt, speedo, map, watch and a radio frequency?
leveymg
May 2012
#15
Yup, you read those stories of airline crashes and the pilots are on food stamps
riderinthestorm
May 2012
#12
wow. that pretty much explains the situation right there. $17K starting pay for a pilot? unreal.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#36
Probably not many people are. The working conditions suck and the pay is worse than Taco Bell.
Edweird
May 2012
#14
The airlines have ensured the pilot position has been downgraded to bus driver.
CK_John
May 2012
#16
probably before your time, but bus driver used to be a decent job as well. decent wages,
HiPointDem
May 2012
#37
Flight training is mega expensive. Where I took my flight training it costs $88/hr for a Cessna 152
neverforget
May 2012
#21
It's the same all over. In a paroxysm of stupid we radically shifted or entire national
Egalitarian Thug
May 2012
#22
I think your (1) pretty much says it all and can be plugged into any career classification.
cherokeeprogressive
May 2012
#31
I absolutely defer to your experience. Having spent 10 years in Naval Aviation
cherokeeprogressive
May 2012
#34
I'm completely convinced that the safety record of US air carriers is almost wholly dependent...
Major Nikon
May 2012
#32
this thread makes me glad i don't have to fly anywhere anymore. i was already glad because
HiPointDem
May 2012
#40