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2. A lot of good points.

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Fri Apr 10, 2015, 10:52 AM

Apr 2015

Seems everything the repubs do now is negative towards everyone except their rich friends. The voting thing is scary.

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No, the Civil War is NOT Over. In fact, the South is slowly winning. [View all] riqster Apr 2015 OP

Sorry, it was the Army of Northern Virginia that surrendered at Appomatox. malthaussen Apr 2015 #1

Forest. Trees. riqster Apr 2015 #3

I'll stand by my point, thanks. malthaussen Apr 2015 #12

what's your agenda heaven05 Apr 2015 #34

And technically Cornwallis only surrendered the units under his command at Yorktown. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #7

+1. Good catch- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #17

what he said is true heaven05 Apr 2015 #32

A lot of good points. oldandhappy Apr 2015 #2

Oh hellz yeah. riqster Apr 2015 #4

So have many other states, including Texas. ananda Apr 2015 #13

Texas... malokvale77 Apr 2015 #126

Yep, that is pretty much the new GOP bottom line. If it's injurious to people, segregates RKP5637 Apr 2015 #103

They will pull the temple down on us all. riqster Apr 2015 #109

I wish the dems were tougher than they often are. Also, once we get a candidate, I hope RKP5637 Apr 2015 #114

"We must all hang together, or we shall surely all hang separately ". riqster Apr 2015 #117

the wild use of hyperbole seriously detracts from what you are trying to say cali Apr 2015 #5

Mentioned in the post. riqster Apr 2015 #9

But what if it isn't hyperbole? ananda Apr 2015 #14

As a Southerner, I fail to see the 'bashing' here. blackspade Apr 2015 #72

Geez cali... malokvale77 Apr 2015 #128

Cali doesn't much care for my posts. riqster Apr 2015 #133

can someone please explain to me exactly what it is the south is winning? it sure ain't the economy. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #6

The resegregation of America to fit the Confederate model. riqster Apr 2015 #10

you blame that on southerner politicians alone? good lord. they are all complicit in this. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #15

No, I said the whole country. riqster Apr 2015 #21

but, you are blaming it on The South. Looks to me like the 1% took a message and used it to their Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #24

The South started the Civil War. Their agenda continues and has spread. riqster Apr 2015 #28

but, you do admit that they are all over the country not just in the south, yes? Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #36

As I said in the OP. riqster Apr 2015 #45

then DON'T blame it on The South. That is all I am saying. Quit using that fucking war and Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #50

The war was started by the South. The war was continued by the South. riqster Apr 2015 #53

you need to go back and ReRead this SubThread. It is NOT JUST REGIONAL politicians Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #56

I know Tuesday. cwydro Apr 2015 #58

the way they twist it all around to blame it SOLELY on southern politicians just Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #59

I'm trashing it too. cwydro Apr 2015 #60

That'll wash a lot of hogs. riqster Apr 2015 #61

YOU are continuing it. cwydro Apr 2015 #63

Bollocks. So you see none of the effects cited in the OP? riqster Apr 2015 #65

Then you lack a clear understanding of the lasting divide that... blackspade Apr 2015 #74

well said, yourself heaven05 Apr 2015 #119

really? heaven05 Apr 2015 #120

I've noticed that too. bvar22 Apr 2015 #101

Well my friend, few of us who have any option live in the States that allow discrimination against Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #105

So where did you move? bvar22 Apr 2015 #110

... cwydro Apr 2015 #123

that is not true heaven05 Apr 2015 #121

Oh come on... malokvale77 Apr 2015 #129

should the title be heaven05 Apr 2015 #96

well said. blackspade Apr 2015 #107

Pop Quiz: bvar22 Apr 2015 #111

It's a metaphor heaven05 Apr 2015 #118

Do you mean the Wall Street 1%? bvar22 Apr 2015 #100

It's not just lynching. riqster Apr 2015 #108

The Civil War never ended.... Bigmack Apr 2015 #8

Sadly true. riqster Apr 2015 #11

I admire Chamberlain for his intellect & valor; don't make them like that anymore- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #18

They want slaves again, it is that simple NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #26

I feel like a new one is slowly coming to fruition. Initech Apr 2015 #49

And deliberately so. riqster Apr 2015 #57

+1,000,000 Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #104

I would wonder, if indeed the South surrendered, why do they still use that damn flag? calimary Apr 2015 #67

This: riqster Apr 2015 #70

That might explain how so many people on the other side refuse to accept "settled law." calimary Apr 2015 #85

Scary. riqster Apr 2015 #88

+1000 heaven05 Apr 2015 #122

You have given so much to reply to... malokvale77 Apr 2015 #130

"They will never explain" - awful lot of that going around! calimary Apr 2015 #134

Technically 1939 Apr 2015 #115

Welcome to DU, 1939! calimary Apr 2015 #124

Which Georgia university please? nt B2G Apr 2015 #16

It's been a decade past, but... riqster Apr 2015 #33

Class stratification and segregation were not just Confederate values. Orsino Apr 2015 #19

^this^ Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #38

we're talking of the confederacy heaven05 Apr 2015 #40

+1 - It's been going on since we had tribes/races/sportsteams. This is one ugly manifestation. (eom) erronis Apr 2015 #44

It's become a sort of malignant synergy. riqster Apr 2015 #97

It certainly has. Orsino Apr 2015 #113

Agreed. riqster Apr 2015 #116

I saw this bumper sticker earlier this week KansDem Apr 2015 #20

Read up on Sherman's March to the Sea B2G Apr 2015 #30

And it was militarily, efficient. heaven05 Apr 2015 #41

So was the atomic bomb. nt B2G Apr 2015 #48

War is Hell NobodyHere Apr 2015 #47

It is. Both sides committed atrocities. nt B2G Apr 2015 #51

Oh, puh-leeze. Cry me a fucking river. Sherman should have seized all plantation properties KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #66

He didn't go far enough? B2G Apr 2015 #78

Seditious plantation owners retained title to their land and property (minus their KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #89

"Seditious plantation owners"... malokvale77 Apr 2015 #131

I'll see your Andersonville with Rock Island and raise with Ft.Delaware. Are_grits_groceries Apr 2015 #95

Excellent points. With the SC in their pockets, that's half the battle. world wide wally Apr 2015 #22

The surrender terms were mild for the time. riqster Apr 2015 #35

The battle still going on. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #23

Concisely put. riqster Apr 2015 #37

So many references to the Civil War in today's movies, tv, music, symbology, other media. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #25

Well, first people need to stop denying it. riqster Apr 2015 #39

Given that national demographics are against them, teabaggers are relying on this kairos12 Apr 2015 #27

Just so. One sees a lot of Confederate battle flags at Teabagger events. riqster Apr 2015 #98

The opponents of progressives don't need to win to win. They just need to stop progress. jtuck004 Apr 2015 #29

You may be right. riqster Apr 2015 #43

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! FAR RIGHT is far right. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #31

Quite true. riqster Apr 2015 #42

And repressive. blackspade Apr 2015 #75

+1 riqster Apr 2015 #81

great post! heaven05 Apr 2015 #46

Thanks. riqster Apr 2015 #73

Southern Strategy is still being used. SansACause Apr 2015 #52

Yes indeed. riqster Apr 2015 #54

The South shall rise again. blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #55

The Confederacy is sure working on it. riqster Apr 2015 #62

The institution of chattel slavery was smashed into oblivion with the KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #64

That seems a narrow reading to me. riqster Apr 2015 #69

There is a sustantial qualitative difference between chattel slavery and other KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #87

Not all had the resources to relocate. The Jim Crow laws hurt a lot of freed slaves. riqster Apr 2015 #91

That is true. The historian C. Vann Woodward in "The Strange Career of KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #93

I will look it up. Sounds interesting. riqster Apr 2015 #94

Chattel slavery was not the principal reason but a principal aspect of a wider... blackspade Apr 2015 #77

Well said. riqster Apr 2015 #90

Well, I'd be hard pressed to explain why Iowa farmboys or the scion of Mississippi plantations KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #92

My point was and is that the means may have changed but the goal has not. riqster Apr 2015 #99

It's not hard to understand if you consider the hegemonic processes that... blackspade Apr 2015 #106

LOL. Touche! I suppose I meant that your typical Iowa farm boy did not rush off KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #125

Hard to argue with that. blackspade Apr 2015 #68

Thanks. riqster Apr 2015 #80

Oh good grief.... this malarkey again! AlbertCat Apr 2015 #71

*huge eye roll* Texasgal Apr 2015 #76

The rich hold to power using the racists. It's up to you to break the cycle. mmonk Apr 2015 #79

The first step is to acknowledge the paradigm. riqster Apr 2015 #82

Agreed. mmonk Apr 2015 #83

Yeah, the Union soldiers were their saviors. B2G Apr 2015 #84

Which was totally different than how slaves were treated by their benevolent owners? riqster Apr 2015 #86

The South is WINNING???!!!! bvar22 Apr 2015 #102

Racism is being re-legalized as well as other economic and other measures. riqster Apr 2015 #112

One point of order... Scootaloo Apr 2015 #127

Morally, yes. riqster Apr 2015 #132