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calimary

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85. That might explain how so many people on the other side refuse to accept "settled law."

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 02:14 PM

Apr 2015

How many times have we seen that?

And it filters down to this very day in the opposition of the Voting Rights Act AND ESPECIALLY ROE V WADE!!!!!

Roe v Wade is supposed to be "settled law" too. And look what that side of the aisle has done to it!!!!!!!!

They don't give up if they don't think they're wrong.

They won't accept, or even acknowledge laws, judges' rulings, or even the expressed will of the majority.

They didn't accept the duly elected President of the United States when he was not merely NOT of their party but also not of their skin color.

They didn't accept the verdict from the Supreme Court that a woman has the right to choose.

They didn't accept the Voting Rights Act - and the very idea that voting is a right for every citizen.

They refuse to accept climate change.

They refuse to accept that church and state are and should be separate.

They refuse to accept that they can't shove their guns in everybody's faces.

They refuse to accept that rights are across the board and not just for an elite or privileged few.

They refuse to accept that the Person or the Concept of GOD may have a different face and form to different peoples and cultures.

And unfortunately, they're not giving up on ANY of this. Which means WE, on our side, are stuck. We're condemned to have to keep fighting these battles again and again and again and again. And AGAIN. I'm not sure if there will ever be a winner on this. I'm not even sure the fight will ever be completely won and the issue will ever be permanently resolved. As long as there are people on that side who keep fighting us, this is what we're going to face. And it's daunting. And frustrating as hell.

But that's what we have to be prepared for. That's what we have to face.

They don't give up if they don't think they're wrong. They WON'T give up if they don't think they're wrong. Won't EVER.

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No, the Civil War is NOT Over. In fact, the South is slowly winning. [View all] riqster Apr 2015 OP

Sorry, it was the Army of Northern Virginia that surrendered at Appomatox. malthaussen Apr 2015 #1

Forest. Trees. riqster Apr 2015 #3

I'll stand by my point, thanks. malthaussen Apr 2015 #12

what's your agenda heaven05 Apr 2015 #34

And technically Cornwallis only surrendered the units under his command at Yorktown. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #7

+1. Good catch- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #17

what he said is true heaven05 Apr 2015 #32

A lot of good points. oldandhappy Apr 2015 #2

Oh hellz yeah. riqster Apr 2015 #4

So have many other states, including Texas. ananda Apr 2015 #13

Texas... malokvale77 Apr 2015 #126

Yep, that is pretty much the new GOP bottom line. If it's injurious to people, segregates RKP5637 Apr 2015 #103

They will pull the temple down on us all. riqster Apr 2015 #109

I wish the dems were tougher than they often are. Also, once we get a candidate, I hope RKP5637 Apr 2015 #114

"We must all hang together, or we shall surely all hang separately ". riqster Apr 2015 #117

the wild use of hyperbole seriously detracts from what you are trying to say cali Apr 2015 #5

Mentioned in the post. riqster Apr 2015 #9

But what if it isn't hyperbole? ananda Apr 2015 #14

As a Southerner, I fail to see the 'bashing' here. blackspade Apr 2015 #72

Geez cali... malokvale77 Apr 2015 #128

Cali doesn't much care for my posts. riqster Apr 2015 #133

can someone please explain to me exactly what it is the south is winning? it sure ain't the economy. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #6

The resegregation of America to fit the Confederate model. riqster Apr 2015 #10

you blame that on southerner politicians alone? good lord. they are all complicit in this. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #15

No, I said the whole country. riqster Apr 2015 #21

but, you are blaming it on The South. Looks to me like the 1% took a message and used it to their Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #24

The South started the Civil War. Their agenda continues and has spread. riqster Apr 2015 #28

but, you do admit that they are all over the country not just in the south, yes? Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #36

As I said in the OP. riqster Apr 2015 #45

then DON'T blame it on The South. That is all I am saying. Quit using that fucking war and Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #50

The war was started by the South. The war was continued by the South. riqster Apr 2015 #53

you need to go back and ReRead this SubThread. It is NOT JUST REGIONAL politicians Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #56

I know Tuesday. cwydro Apr 2015 #58

the way they twist it all around to blame it SOLELY on southern politicians just Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #59

I'm trashing it too. cwydro Apr 2015 #60

That'll wash a lot of hogs. riqster Apr 2015 #61

YOU are continuing it. cwydro Apr 2015 #63

Bollocks. So you see none of the effects cited in the OP? riqster Apr 2015 #65

Then you lack a clear understanding of the lasting divide that... blackspade Apr 2015 #74

well said, yourself heaven05 Apr 2015 #119

really? heaven05 Apr 2015 #120

I've noticed that too. bvar22 Apr 2015 #101

Well my friend, few of us who have any option live in the States that allow discrimination against Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #105

So where did you move? bvar22 Apr 2015 #110

... cwydro Apr 2015 #123

that is not true heaven05 Apr 2015 #121

Oh come on... malokvale77 Apr 2015 #129

should the title be heaven05 Apr 2015 #96

well said. blackspade Apr 2015 #107

Pop Quiz: bvar22 Apr 2015 #111

It's a metaphor heaven05 Apr 2015 #118

Do you mean the Wall Street 1%? bvar22 Apr 2015 #100

It's not just lynching. riqster Apr 2015 #108

The Civil War never ended.... Bigmack Apr 2015 #8

Sadly true. riqster Apr 2015 #11

I admire Chamberlain for his intellect & valor; don't make them like that anymore- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #18

They want slaves again, it is that simple NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #26

I feel like a new one is slowly coming to fruition. Initech Apr 2015 #49

And deliberately so. riqster Apr 2015 #57

+1,000,000 Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #104

I would wonder, if indeed the South surrendered, why do they still use that damn flag? calimary Apr 2015 #67

This: riqster Apr 2015 #70

That might explain how so many people on the other side refuse to accept "settled law." calimary Apr 2015 #85

Scary. riqster Apr 2015 #88

+1000 heaven05 Apr 2015 #122

You have given so much to reply to... malokvale77 Apr 2015 #130

"They will never explain" - awful lot of that going around! calimary Apr 2015 #134

Technically 1939 Apr 2015 #115

Welcome to DU, 1939! calimary Apr 2015 #124

Which Georgia university please? nt B2G Apr 2015 #16

It's been a decade past, but... riqster Apr 2015 #33

Class stratification and segregation were not just Confederate values. Orsino Apr 2015 #19

^this^ Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #38

we're talking of the confederacy heaven05 Apr 2015 #40

+1 - It's been going on since we had tribes/races/sportsteams. This is one ugly manifestation. (eom) erronis Apr 2015 #44

It's become a sort of malignant synergy. riqster Apr 2015 #97

It certainly has. Orsino Apr 2015 #113

Agreed. riqster Apr 2015 #116

I saw this bumper sticker earlier this week KansDem Apr 2015 #20

Read up on Sherman's March to the Sea B2G Apr 2015 #30

And it was militarily, efficient. heaven05 Apr 2015 #41

So was the atomic bomb. nt B2G Apr 2015 #48

War is Hell NobodyHere Apr 2015 #47

It is. Both sides committed atrocities. nt B2G Apr 2015 #51

Oh, puh-leeze. Cry me a fucking river. Sherman should have seized all plantation properties KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #66

He didn't go far enough? B2G Apr 2015 #78

Seditious plantation owners retained title to their land and property (minus their KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #89

"Seditious plantation owners"... malokvale77 Apr 2015 #131

I'll see your Andersonville with Rock Island and raise with Ft.Delaware. Are_grits_groceries Apr 2015 #95

Excellent points. With the SC in their pockets, that's half the battle. world wide wally Apr 2015 #22

The surrender terms were mild for the time. riqster Apr 2015 #35

The battle still going on. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #23

Concisely put. riqster Apr 2015 #37

So many references to the Civil War in today's movies, tv, music, symbology, other media. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #25

Well, first people need to stop denying it. riqster Apr 2015 #39

Given that national demographics are against them, teabaggers are relying on this kairos12 Apr 2015 #27

Just so. One sees a lot of Confederate battle flags at Teabagger events. riqster Apr 2015 #98

The opponents of progressives don't need to win to win. They just need to stop progress. jtuck004 Apr 2015 #29

You may be right. riqster Apr 2015 #43

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! FAR RIGHT is far right. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #31

Quite true. riqster Apr 2015 #42

And repressive. blackspade Apr 2015 #75

+1 riqster Apr 2015 #81

great post! heaven05 Apr 2015 #46

Thanks. riqster Apr 2015 #73

Southern Strategy is still being used. SansACause Apr 2015 #52

Yes indeed. riqster Apr 2015 #54

The South shall rise again. blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #55

The Confederacy is sure working on it. riqster Apr 2015 #62

The institution of chattel slavery was smashed into oblivion with the KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #64

That seems a narrow reading to me. riqster Apr 2015 #69

There is a sustantial qualitative difference between chattel slavery and other KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #87

Not all had the resources to relocate. The Jim Crow laws hurt a lot of freed slaves. riqster Apr 2015 #91

That is true. The historian C. Vann Woodward in "The Strange Career of KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #93

I will look it up. Sounds interesting. riqster Apr 2015 #94

Chattel slavery was not the principal reason but a principal aspect of a wider... blackspade Apr 2015 #77

Well said. riqster Apr 2015 #90

Well, I'd be hard pressed to explain why Iowa farmboys or the scion of Mississippi plantations KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #92

My point was and is that the means may have changed but the goal has not. riqster Apr 2015 #99

It's not hard to understand if you consider the hegemonic processes that... blackspade Apr 2015 #106

LOL. Touche! I suppose I meant that your typical Iowa farm boy did not rush off KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #125

Hard to argue with that. blackspade Apr 2015 #68

Thanks. riqster Apr 2015 #80

Oh good grief.... this malarkey again! AlbertCat Apr 2015 #71

*huge eye roll* Texasgal Apr 2015 #76

The rich hold to power using the racists. It's up to you to break the cycle. mmonk Apr 2015 #79

The first step is to acknowledge the paradigm. riqster Apr 2015 #82

Agreed. mmonk Apr 2015 #83

Yeah, the Union soldiers were their saviors. B2G Apr 2015 #84

Which was totally different than how slaves were treated by their benevolent owners? riqster Apr 2015 #86

The South is WINNING???!!!! bvar22 Apr 2015 #102

Racism is being re-legalized as well as other economic and other measures. riqster Apr 2015 #112

One point of order... Scootaloo Apr 2015 #127

Morally, yes. riqster Apr 2015 #132