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Maedhros

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16. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Reply to ClarkJonathanKent (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 06:04 PM

Apr 2015

If we keep telling ourselves our best prospects are "unelectable," they will be. (Which conveniently keeps the field clear for our our most lukewarm, marginal prospects.)

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Basic question about Hillary vs. Bernie.... [View all] ClarkJonathanKent Apr 2015 OP

The electorate is not as progressive as he is. upaloopa Apr 2015 #1

If he got national attention and his message did, he would make a real ruckus because NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #2

I love Senator Sanders and I would support him if nominated. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #3

Good way to put it. Hoyt Apr 2015 #33

Same here. ananda Apr 2015 #44

He tells the truth n/t arcane1 Apr 2015 #4

I suspect the reason(s) many say that about Bernie is elleng Apr 2015 #5

I disagree on #2. truebluegreen Apr 2015 #37

1) He has to enter the race first BainsBane Apr 2015 #6

I do not view Bernie unelectable. Smithryee Apr 2015 #7

+1 Go Vols Apr 2015 #9

Aren't you assuming .... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #28

He doesn't have access to the bank vaults of money Hillary and Cleita Apr 2015 #8

Money becomes unimportant when the right messaging is delivered... Smithryee Apr 2015 #12

...and how do people hear this message? brooklynite Apr 2015 #22

You think it's all TV? Smithryee Apr 2015 #24

Wasn't that sentiment disproved in Chicago recently? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #30

Some people say that the average people are not progressive however Autumn Apr 2015 #10

Exactly. Smithryee Apr 2015 #13

He is a declared socialist. Americans hate socialism. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #11

Democratic socialist Smithryee Apr 2015 #14

and THAT would, or could reverse voter apathy. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #15

Thank you.. Smithryee Apr 2015 #17

check out my latest post in IP guillaumeb Apr 2015 #19

That is a mistake. AFAIK, only people opposing Sanders make that mistake. merrily Apr 2015 #27

true guillaumeb Apr 2015 #31

You believe labels are very important, yet you mislabeled Sanders. merrily Apr 2015 #32

I called him a socialist. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #42

Democratic Socialist is a name, just like Republican, or Democrat or Socialist or Communist. merrily Apr 2015 #46

Self-fulfilling prophecy. Maedhros Apr 2015 #16

And if we tell ourselves those prospects ARE "electable", they can still lose. brooklynite Apr 2015 #23

How many allegedly electable, "pragmatic" center right Dems lost in 2010 and 2012? merrily Apr 2015 #29

Remember Harry Truman: LongTomH Apr 2015 #40

Now look what you went and did! merrily Apr 2015 #47

Apparently you don't realize the American Electorate is not Democratic Underground... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #18

Bernie's views are more in tune with the American people than Hillary Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #20

His views has to be in tune with the majority of the voting American people. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #38

I'll show you mine if you show me yours... brooklynite Apr 2015 #21

That's a reasonable question, brooklynite. ClarkJonathanKent Apr 2015 #26

They favor certain positions you call progressive or liberal BainsBane Apr 2015 #34

In sports, it's called playing not to lose mmonk Apr 2015 #25

if some one has to give reasons why bernie is a bust beachbum bob Apr 2015 #35

Some people never get the memo. truebluegreen Apr 2015 #39

I agree with pragmatism ClarkJonathanKent Apr 2015 #45

He should run for the Democratic nomination.../NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #36

Bernie's problem he one of those people that can't make a decision. CK_John Apr 2015 #41

I think the much of the electorate is favorable towards Sanders. ananda Apr 2015 #43