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lovemydog

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53. True, they will keep trying so long

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 05:09 PM

Apr 2015

as lack of campaign finance reform exists. The good news as I see it is that most younger people I know don't even listen to television or radio advertising. When I hear that stuff I laugh my ass off and look into voting for the opposing candidate. There's also some positive data that campaigns funded by the Koch brothers have been losing. I think many, and the numbers are growing, are so turned off by corporate spending that they'll look at who isn't spending it and consider voting for them.

And I agree with you one hundred percent that we should have publicly financed campaigns.

In the absence of that I strongly support issue-oriented campaigns and non corporate candidates.

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Yo Hillary: I have a plan for you that will guarantee your address from 2016-2024. [View all] WillTwain Apr 2015 OP

The 99% don't need a tax cut Warpy Apr 2015 #1

Wrong, warpy RobertEarl Apr 2015 #2

It is a start. WillTwain Apr 2015 #4

It happens RobertEarl Apr 2015 #5

Sad, isn't it. This is a real policy possibility. WillTwain Apr 2015 #7

Realistic conversation? RobertEarl Apr 2015 #20

I am going to try, though my head is putting dents in my plaster walls already. WillTwain Apr 2015 #23

One particular New Yorker would probably have some thoughts obxhead Apr 2015 #36

The sooner she says no to our ideas, the sooner we say no to her elitism. WillTwain Apr 2015 #38

Maybe a big chunk of the 1%'s tax increase could be a war-time 'surtax'... cascadiance Apr 2015 #101

Hell yes, WillTwain Apr 2015 #107

That's not how it works and you know it Warpy Apr 2015 #6

Are you saying the only way tax cuts can be done is across the board? is that the law? WillTwain Apr 2015 #10

Yep, don't forget we lost democracy some time ago Warpy Apr 2015 #13

So, Hillary cannot get it done? Nobody can? Nobody can raise all wages either? WillTwain Apr 2015 #14

She doesn't want to get it done. Warpy Apr 2015 #15

Are you saying it is a good idea that she will not pursue? WillTwain Apr 2015 #16

Ok RobertEarl Apr 2015 #17

Exactly, if taxes won't work what will she do? WillTwain Apr 2015 #18

How would raising taxes on the 1% hurt wallstreet? 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #76

Does bruised ego count as hurting? WillTwain Apr 2015 #77

I guess. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #78

RobertEarl, have we ever agreed on anything before? Chan790 Apr 2015 #82

With forces driving wages down WillTwain Apr 2015 #92

Will, we're just never going to agree. Chan790 Apr 2015 #93

Chan, For the longest time, I held your beliefs. WillTwain Apr 2015 #95

The tax cut is only a small part of the answer. WillTwain Apr 2015 #3

exactly JI7 Apr 2015 #9

Exactly what? WillTwain Apr 2015 #12

Precisely LittleBlue Apr 2015 #64

LB, There is so much room on this issue it is silly. WillTwain Apr 2015 #66

Exactly LittleBlue Apr 2015 #67

Even the term re patriot WillTwain Apr 2015 #74

why only Hillary ? how about other candidates ? JI7 Apr 2015 #8

This is for all candidates. Hillary is the presumptive democratic nominee. WillTwain Apr 2015 #11

Yup. This should be considered lovemydog Apr 2015 #19

DU should be an idea maternity ward. Mudslinging has its place WillTwain Apr 2015 #21

Agree. 'That will never happen' doesn't cut it. lovemydog Apr 2015 #24

This country is so fucking rich it is sickening. WillTwain Apr 2015 #28

It's nice talking with someone who can carry a conversation lovemydog Apr 2015 #35

It is a pleasure to know you. I love the fact that we can disagree on a few things, agree WillTwain Apr 2015 #44

Awesome! I think democratic socialism lovemydog Apr 2015 #46

Peace WillTwain Apr 2015 #48

Maybe Bernie should start his own party? Move Dems to the Left by giving them somewhere to go if sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #85

Hire this girl - political strategist. WillTwain Apr 2015 #87

The Dem party is losing registered voters anyhow. The last statistics I saw on this (Republicans are sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #89

If Bernie gets a fair chance from the media, WillTwain Apr 2015 #91

I definitely agree. But the media is owned by the same people who are funding their choice of sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #94

The wrench in the system is the long coat tails the president has. WillTwain Apr 2015 #96

Perhaps. The risk is that it's a quixotic adventure. lovemydog Apr 2015 #98

Here's an idea I just had: a one-time tax of $ 5 trillion lovemydog Apr 2015 #22

I have had the same idea. The rich have $34 trillion in offshore accounts. WillTwain Apr 2015 #25

True that. One ad could feature a bunch of middle-aged and younger lovemydog Apr 2015 #27

Congress writes tax law not the President. upaloopa Apr 2015 #26

Yes. And that's why we need far more progressive people lovemydog Apr 2015 #29

Hillary better sound like Huey Long or we do not need her. WillTwain Apr 2015 #32

The president has big influence over congress. Heard of FDR and LBJ? WillTwain Apr 2015 #30

Every one of us should be in the streets DEMANDING universal healthcare, $20MW NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #31

It is up to us. We decide our lives. We make our bed. WillTwain Apr 2015 #33

Tell me where there's a rally in New Mexico. lovemydog Apr 2015 #39

We are using this FB page to try and coordinate NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #40

Thanks a million. I'll join and also bring it to the attention lovemydog Apr 2015 #43

From the bottom up NJNP. WillTwain Apr 2015 #45

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA obxhead Apr 2015 #34

Fine, but let's force her to answer to ideas like this. WillTwain Apr 2015 #37

so, you will believe campaign trail bs obxhead Apr 2015 #50

Only if she is specific. WillTwain Apr 2015 #54

Laugh all you want. Any Presidential candidate will respond to massive pressure lovemydog Apr 2015 #41

Keep throwing hay makers until one lands. WillTwain Apr 2015 #49

LOL, they rarely land. But it's fun for a bit. lovemydog Apr 2015 #56

We decked um before. WillTwain Apr 2015 #58

Any Dem obxhead Apr 2015 #51

That's not accurate. lovemydog Apr 2015 #55

Ok, I'll give you that (barely) obxhead Apr 2015 #60

The problem with that is... Motown_Johnny Apr 2015 #42

You are right, but have no choice but to keep fighting. This will end. It must. WillTwain Apr 2015 #47

Of course we should fight. But we must pick our battles. Motown_Johnny Apr 2015 #103

In my humble opinion WillTwain Apr 2015 #105

True, they will keep trying so long lovemydog Apr 2015 #53

Help me with this. WillTwain Apr 2015 #70

It depends on each individual poster, I think. lovemydog Apr 2015 #99

A few years ago WillTwain Apr 2015 #100

Yeah, the effective corporate tax rate has fallen from 50% to 15%. lovemydog Apr 2015 #104

The idea that many here are underestimating the magnitude of the problem is right on. WillTwain Apr 2015 #106

The federal tax burden on Americans is near it's lowest in history BainsBane Apr 2015 #52

How can raising taxes on the rich be irresponsible? WillTwain Apr 2015 #57

What is irresponsible is depleting the national treasury BainsBane Apr 2015 #59

Never said that. I am talking about a huge corporate tax increase - maybe double. Many pay nothing. WillTwain Apr 2015 #62

I said just that to you in my first post BainsBane Apr 2015 #69

If you think raising rates on the rich is insane, WillTwain Apr 2015 #75

I don't think OP meant a 1% increase on corporate tax rate, but you are right it's irresponsible. Hoyt Apr 2015 #61

So, FDR had it wrong all along? Really? WillTwain Apr 2015 #63

Doubling the tax wouldn't raise enough for longer than one year at best. Hoyt Apr 2015 #68

What is my idea in your mind? WillTwain Apr 2015 #71

Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum Rex Apr 2015 #65

Good stuff. WillTwain Apr 2015 #72

Hillary Clinton is Rex Apr 2015 #73

If it's such a great plan file & run with it. William769 Apr 2015 #79

If you are George Soros and will open a PAC, I Am in. WillTwain Apr 2015 #81

It's not hard to start a PAC. William769 Apr 2015 #83

It is fun to speculate. I hope Hillary makes an ass of me and is the next Huey Long. WillTwain Apr 2015 #86

Let me ask you something: If you were in a room with Hillary Clinton MineralMan Apr 2015 #80

Yo, MineralMan. Just having a little fun. WillTwain Apr 2015 #84

Yah, well, I don't answer to Yo! either. MineralMan Apr 2015 #88

You answered to YO. WillTwain Apr 2015 #97

Yes master. WillTwain Apr 2015 #90

Add a Financial Transaction tax to pay for universal healthcare and education and we can talk. Vincardog Apr 2015 #102

Who would fight this? WillTwain Apr 2015 #108

Oh, hell yes! lovemydog Apr 2015 #109

Yo, Yo-Yo Ma! lovemydog Apr 2015 #110

Yo Mom-ma WillTwain Apr 2015 #111

Your math is flawed. nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #112