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ClarkJonathanKent

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26. That's a reasonable question, brooklynite.

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 06:35 PM

Apr 2015

Well, I guess I would take issue with the idea that America is particularly right or centrist. On many issues, the vast majority of Americans are agree strenuously with "liberal" ideas. More stringent gun laws, immigration reform, campaign finance reform, wall street reform, closing tax loopholes for companies that send jobs overseas or hold their money overseas, green jobs, national parks....the list gets pretty extensive. Unlike Hillary, Bernie would probably do a great job at reminding the American people that they actually agree on a lot of important topics. Also unlike Hillary, he would also (probably) have the balls to point out them that those topics are MORE important and MORE impactful to their actual lives than gay marriage, and that wedge issues like that are being used to get them to vote against their own best interests.

I agree with a previous poster, if the message is good enough, money becomes less important. And the progressive message IS good enough. We have been right about so many things. Things that Hillary was completely wrong about. I will vote for her if she is the candidate....I just wish she wasn't.

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Basic question about Hillary vs. Bernie.... [View all] ClarkJonathanKent Apr 2015 OP

The electorate is not as progressive as he is. upaloopa Apr 2015 #1

If he got national attention and his message did, he would make a real ruckus because NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #2

I love Senator Sanders and I would support him if nominated. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #3

Good way to put it. Hoyt Apr 2015 #33

Same here. ananda Apr 2015 #44

He tells the truth n/t arcane1 Apr 2015 #4

I suspect the reason(s) many say that about Bernie is elleng Apr 2015 #5

I disagree on #2. truebluegreen Apr 2015 #37

1) He has to enter the race first BainsBane Apr 2015 #6

I do not view Bernie unelectable. Smithryee Apr 2015 #7

+1 Go Vols Apr 2015 #9

Aren't you assuming .... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #28

He doesn't have access to the bank vaults of money Hillary and Cleita Apr 2015 #8

Money becomes unimportant when the right messaging is delivered... Smithryee Apr 2015 #12

...and how do people hear this message? brooklynite Apr 2015 #22

You think it's all TV? Smithryee Apr 2015 #24

Wasn't that sentiment disproved in Chicago recently? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #30

Some people say that the average people are not progressive however Autumn Apr 2015 #10

Exactly. Smithryee Apr 2015 #13

He is a declared socialist. Americans hate socialism. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #11

Democratic socialist Smithryee Apr 2015 #14

and THAT would, or could reverse voter apathy. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #15

Thank you.. Smithryee Apr 2015 #17

check out my latest post in IP guillaumeb Apr 2015 #19

That is a mistake. AFAIK, only people opposing Sanders make that mistake. merrily Apr 2015 #27

true guillaumeb Apr 2015 #31

You believe labels are very important, yet you mislabeled Sanders. merrily Apr 2015 #32

I called him a socialist. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #42

Democratic Socialist is a name, just like Republican, or Democrat or Socialist or Communist. merrily Apr 2015 #46

Self-fulfilling prophecy. Maedhros Apr 2015 #16

And if we tell ourselves those prospects ARE "electable", they can still lose. brooklynite Apr 2015 #23

How many allegedly electable, "pragmatic" center right Dems lost in 2010 and 2012? merrily Apr 2015 #29

Remember Harry Truman: LongTomH Apr 2015 #40

Now look what you went and did! merrily Apr 2015 #47

Apparently you don't realize the American Electorate is not Democratic Underground... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #18

Bernie's views are more in tune with the American people than Hillary Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #20

His views has to be in tune with the majority of the voting American people. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #38

I'll show you mine if you show me yours... brooklynite Apr 2015 #21

That's a reasonable question, brooklynite. ClarkJonathanKent Apr 2015 #26

They favor certain positions you call progressive or liberal BainsBane Apr 2015 #34

In sports, it's called playing not to lose mmonk Apr 2015 #25

if some one has to give reasons why bernie is a bust beachbum bob Apr 2015 #35

Some people never get the memo. truebluegreen Apr 2015 #39

I agree with pragmatism ClarkJonathanKent Apr 2015 #45

He should run for the Democratic nomination.../NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #36

Bernie's problem he one of those people that can't make a decision. CK_John Apr 2015 #41

I think the much of the electorate is favorable towards Sanders. ananda Apr 2015 #43