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160. I don't know th an american organization founded by an American politician gets to determine what an

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 08:49 AM

Apr 2015

Arab is and is not not. Imagine if imagine if Syrian politicians, born and raised in Syria (or Libya or Yemen, etc.) got to have the definitive word on what a French person or an American is.

For one thing, Arabs were widely considered to be part of the Semitic race, until that issue became highly politicized.

To be clear, I am not saying the definition is wrong or not accepted by Arabs who are not Arab Americans and well within the US political system. I don't know one way or another (though I think that, at least on its face, citing members of a tiny, modern day minority having red hair and blue eyes as evidence that Arabs are not a race seems ludicrous).

I am saying only that, without knowing more, there seems to be no reason to accept the word of adc.org as definitive on the subject of what an Arab is or is not.

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Bill Maher is really turning into a vile racist [View all] One of the 99 Apr 2015 OP

Turning into? Renew Deal Apr 2015 #1

True but he has been getting worse of late nt One of the 99 Apr 2015 #2

when it comes to islam he is racist. DesertFlower Apr 2015 #3

Not just islam. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #5

well he's anti religion in general but more so when it comes DesertFlower Apr 2015 #8

He is selectively anti-religion One of the 99 Apr 2015 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author DesertFlower Apr 2015 #30

Good point. Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #44

because those religions are inspiring terrorism on a global scale samsingh Apr 2015 #356

Practicing religion is not the issue. Tommy2Tone Apr 2015 #167

Even if the religion makes women second class citizens? PassingFair Apr 2015 #179

without killing nonbelievers i would hope samsingh Apr 2015 #355

One cannot be 'racist' against Islam (or any other religion) as Islam is not a race. Bigoted, kelly1mm Apr 2015 #9

So we are playing semantics games? One of the 99 Apr 2015 #11

Perhaps if the poster would have used the correct term so many of the posters in this thread kelly1mm Apr 2015 #31

Racism is racism, bigotry is bigotry Darb Apr 2015 #37

Semantics always apply peequod Apr 2015 #61

You can't be racist against white people. AngryAmish Apr 2015 #267

Of course you can. n/t whathehell Apr 2015 #278

No semantics involved. Religion is not race. Period. truebrit71 Apr 2015 #233

But it is not just he comments on Muslims One of the 99 Apr 2015 #363

Not at all. H2O Man Apr 2015 #243

But I was refering to more than his views on Islam. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #249

What else? H2O Man Apr 2015 #258

How about.... One of the 99 Apr 2015 #273

It's not semantics TransitJohn Apr 2015 #301

the issue is that some religions inspire and support terrorism samsingh Apr 2015 #357

Yep. Religion is CHOSEN. hifiguy Apr 2015 #16

Not true. ronnie624 Apr 2015 #22

That's different. People in Texas choose to be stupid. truebrit71 Apr 2015 #235

That sounds like anti-Texan racisim to me. Binkie The Clown Apr 2015 #254

ROFLMFAO truebrit71 Apr 2015 #260

Only in America, and even then the overwhelming majority stick with their inherited religion Hekate Apr 2015 #32

Religion is culture (as is race), and many people are born into it. stone space Apr 2015 #164

Yep. And although it's also cultural, it can be UNCHOSEN. Heidi Apr 2015 #218

I don't think it is quite that clear treestar Apr 2015 #221

Well, except that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are nonwhites... Scootaloo Apr 2015 #24

Yes but Muslim is not a race, it is a religion chosen by people of all races, Muslims are not all Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #181

Solid, valid, and important points. H2O Man Apr 2015 #244

Race is a social construct phil89 Apr 2015 #328

It seems to me that he means Muslims of Arab descent. merrily Apr 2015 #149

I am prettty sure he has bad feelings about any muslims, or at least extreamist muslims of kelly1mm Apr 2015 #157

What makes you pretty sure of that? Have you heard him discuss any group but Muslims who are Arabs merrily Apr 2015 #162

Yes. Specifically Indian muslims in terroist attacks in Mumbai and Nigerian muslims that took kelly1mm Apr 2015 #166

Good to know. merrily Apr 2015 #294

This message was self-deleted by its author stone space Apr 2015 #161

Mexican is not a race. Mexican refers to a person from Mexico and/or with Mexican kelly1mm Apr 2015 #169

It's called a nationality. Just like there is no Canadian or Jamaican race. This "didn�t just Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2015 #194

This message was self-deleted by its author stone space Apr 2015 #204

It's not on the Internet. I grew up in Puerto Rico and we were taught about nationalities and races. Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2015 #210

Right. H2O Man Apr 2015 #241

He's anti-religion. ISLAM has NOTHING to do with RACE. MADem Apr 2015 #26

"Arab is not a race"? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #29

Are jews and muslims the same "race"? Quantess Apr 2015 #36

Arabs often refer to themselves as a race. I'm not inclined to tell them they're wrong Scootaloo Apr 2015 #40

Nice ad hominem, there. Quantess Apr 2015 #46

I thought the subthread was in regards to Arabs? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #50

What? You should think about deleting THAT post--that's a nasty call out, and there's nothing in MADem Apr 2015 #48

That post tried to justify anti-Muslim bigotry in germany by invoking Daesh Scootaloo Apr 2015 #51

You are taking her comments out of context and doing it proudly. MADem Apr 2015 #54

No, I'm most assuredly not Scootaloo Apr 2015 #57

You don't challenge her in the context of the comments. You ignore her remarks about the MADem Apr 2015 #63

I don't need to. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #68

The "authority" comes from a person's DNA. Race is not a "lifestyle choice." MADem Apr 2015 #70

The last thing you want to bring into your argument is DNA, MADem Scootaloo Apr 2015 #73

DNA will tell you very clearly where you're from, and the percentages of your heritage. MADem Apr 2015 #75

The genetic "map" of humankind is nowhere near so simple, MADem Scootaloo Apr 2015 #83

Word salad notwithstanding, "Arab is not a race." MADem Apr 2015 #86

I'm sorry I tore your argument a new one with your own prop Scootaloo Apr 2015 #90

You didn't tear a hole in anything except your own sad insistence, despite Arabs telling you MADem Apr 2015 #95

Race is self-identified, MADem Scootaloo Apr 2015 #102

But Arab is not a race. You've been told. MADem Apr 2015 #104

I dunno. is it? Do you identify racially as "Massachusettsian"? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #109

Arab is not a race. Arabs have told you this. MADem Apr 2015 #113

And Arabs have also told me it is. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #120

Yeah, sure they have. Arab is not a race--go read that link by Arabs telling you so. nt MADem Apr 2015 #131

Please stop. You've lost this one. PassingFair Apr 2015 #182

Is mexican a race? AngryAmish Apr 2015 #275

Lo siento, pero eso es un nacionalidad. nt MADem Apr 2015 #279

So, you agree with Humpty-Dumpty that a word means what you want it to? WinkyDink Apr 2015 #116

I have stated my position quite clearly Scootaloo Apr 2015 #127

Though that organisation complains about racism against Arabs muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #105

A ten year old article about billboards that showed racist pictures of Arabs doesn't really MADem Apr 2015 #108

Wait. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #114

"Racist" in the sense of "bigoted." It is a shorthand word for discrimination. MADem Apr 2015 #118

I see. So you've decided to annul the entire point of your argument starting from Post #26 Scootaloo Apr 2015 #123

No. Sorry, no sale. Arab is NOT a race. MADem Apr 2015 #126

Arabs have also told me otherwise, and you are not worth anything as a tie-breaker Scootaloo Apr 2015 #133

So why, if people get to decide what they are, doesn't everybody put "African American" on their MADem Apr 2015 #134

Because they do not identify as African-American. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #136

Are you being deliberately obtuse? MADem Apr 2015 #140

Because people don't actually think that way, MADem. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #143

Ahhhh, we're down to personal insult!! MADem Apr 2015 #148

No, no, I figured you have a bowtie in common, is all Scootaloo Apr 2015 #150

Keep digging that hole--now we're on to "brainless?" What other insults can you come up with? MADem Apr 2015 #170

Why did you, in #26, leap on the use in #3 of 'racist' to refer to Islam, then? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #151

You need to link if you want me to go there--this thread is too long. nt MADem Apr 2015 #153

OK, since you're unable to read numbers now, here's the links: muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #159

Look, I've said what I have to say on this topic throughout this thread. MADem Apr 2015 #180

Yes, your views are *inconsistent* - I read them, and am now pointing out to you muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #186

Ignore is your friend--use it.Since this is not your thread, your nannying is inappropriate at best. MADem Apr 2015 #190

It's not your thread, either. So your nannying in #26 was inappropriate at best muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #199

Like I said, you have a nice day, now. nt MADem Apr 2015 #202

you are making some valid points samsingh Apr 2015 #358

People who are "America-centric" can't believe that there are other places in the world that are MADem Apr 2015 #361

Race is not biological. It is not genetic. Race is cultural. stone space Apr 2015 #171

No. That's not accurate. Many races make up the American culture. MADem Apr 2015 #195

What is it that is not accurate? stone space Apr 2015 #197

Try reading the whole thing again. nt MADem Apr 2015 #203

This is what I didn't quote before. stone space Apr 2015 #205

If you aren't taking the rather basic point, I'm sorry that I can't help you further. nt MADem Apr 2015 #209

The basic point is that race is not a biological or genetic category. stone space Apr 2015 #295

Yes, those whites can now ask for minority diversity consideration on their college applications MADem Apr 2015 #313

I don't know who you are talking about. stone space Apr 2015 #319

No, it was intended as a reply to your post, averring a "cultural" imperative to the matter under MADem Apr 2015 #320

No number of cultural rules for determining race will suffice to prove... stone space Apr 2015 #321

If you think that, you're not reading very carefully. nt MADem Apr 2015 #326

Are you serious? mimi85 Apr 2015 #284

What I read in that thread was revolting bigotry... Violet_Crumble Apr 2015 #115

Why should anyone drag old shit over here, instead of confronting it in the thread? MADem Apr 2015 #124

Uh, because the discussion in this thread is about Muslims? Violet_Crumble Apr 2015 #137

Well, this thread is about what a "racist" Bill Maher is because he had a spirited conversation MADem Apr 2015 #142

Like I said before, I don't give a shit if it's racism or bigotry... Violet_Crumble Apr 2015 #146

I tend to think that people on message boards talk in shorthand at times. MADem Apr 2015 #152

Sometimes when it's obvious bigotry, I don't bother asking what they mean... Violet_Crumble Apr 2015 #156

How do you know Fareed and Bill are "friend?" Just curious. mimi85 Apr 2015 #285

Because you don't hire people you hate, and you don't work w/them on projects, certainly. MADem Apr 2015 #289

Scootaloo is in error. He confuses culture and ethnicity with race. MADem Apr 2015 #43

No, I'm telling you that you don't get to tell other people what they are and are not Scootaloo Apr 2015 #53

Yes--Arabs do identify as races--the races they come from. MADem Apr 2015 #56

And again, it's up to them, and not up to you. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #58

What's a struggle is encountering someone with such antiquated views on race and ethnicity in the MADem Apr 2015 #62

No, yours is the antiquated view Scootaloo Apr 2015 #71

No, those races can most certainly be mixed, and the way they are defined now is MADem Apr 2015 #80

No, this is about your belief you get to dictate others' identity. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #97

Like you dictate to Arabs--even after they tell you "Arab is not a race" -- that Arab is a race? MADem Apr 2015 #100

No, i'm telling you that you don't get to dictate. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #106

I DO get to dictate, and I've even provided you a citation. MADem Apr 2015 #111

No, you don't. You get to dictate your own identity, and no one else's. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #130

People DO get to choose their gender identity. They don't get to choose their race. MADem Apr 2015 #132

You're making the same argument as those transphobes did, though Scootaloo Apr 2015 #135

No, I am not. Your thesis is falling apart before your eyes. MADem Apr 2015 #145

I didn't ignore it, MADem Scootaloo Apr 2015 #155

I am not doing the dictating, but you certainly are. MADem Apr 2015 #178

I don't know th an american organization founded by an American politician gets to determine what an merrily Apr 2015 #160

"Semitic" refers to languages and cultures--not race. MADem Apr 2015 #172

Plenty of references to "Semitic race" existed anyway, and were intended to encompass merrily Apr 2015 #177

That was a misuse of the term; I believe it originated in (not Jew-friendly) Germany. MADem Apr 2015 #188

Again, the term became politicized at some point. merrily Apr 2015 #291

Arabs are defined by culture, not by race. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #110

The idea that MADem does not get to determine someone's identity for them is not false Scootaloo Apr 2015 #129

So you were ok with Governor Bush putting Hispanic down as his choice? yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #141

It doesn't bother me. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #144

Ok. Thanks for the answer. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #147

In my experience he would identify himself as an "arab", not "black" or African". CJCRANE Apr 2015 #293

That's fine--if he lived in New York, he could call himself a New Yorker, too. MADem Apr 2015 #314

So which races are legitimate in your opinion? CJCRANE Apr 2015 #315

The term "racist" can also mean "ethnically bigoted." It's a shorthand term. MADem Apr 2015 #316

exactly right samsingh Apr 2015 #359

If they identified themselves as kumquats, you'd be okay with that, too? WinkyDink Apr 2015 #117

Do you know anyone who identifies as a kumquat? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #158

It's called "the principle of the thing." WinkyDink Apr 2015 #266

You could perhaps publish an academic paper putting this issue to rest. delrem Apr 2015 #262

I certainly could, but I won't. MADem Apr 2015 #280

I had no intention of insinuating that you're racist, if that's what you mean. delrem Apr 2015 #283

To quote a former Ambassador from Oman: LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #38

I am not "white," but thanks for playing. MADem Apr 2015 #42

Do you identify as Arab, then? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #47

I got some bad news for you, pal--Fareed Z isn't an "Arab," either. MADem Apr 2015 #52

I didn't see anyone saying he was, MADem Scootaloo Apr 2015 #55

Yes, I do get to tell people that. Because they are not a race, any more than Hispanics or MADem Apr 2015 #60

No, you don't. But thanks for making it so frank. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #65

Let's all switch races, then--if it's a matter of "personal decision." MADem Apr 2015 #69

DNA has nothing to do with determining Race LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #74

The old view of "race" was a social construct, but in looking at DNA, it's not. MADem Apr 2015 #77

No, the individual determines their race Scootaloo Apr 2015 #79

The American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee has a problem with your assertion. MADem Apr 2015 #82

My assertion is that race is determined by personal identification Scootaloo Apr 2015 #88

"Arab is NOT a race." Good grief, even when Arabs concerned with the way people discriminate MADem Apr 2015 #89

It is to those who identify themselves so, MADem Scootaloo Apr 2015 #92

No, it isn't. Try reading that link again. nt MADem Apr 2015 #93

I read it. The organization's members are free to identify as they choose. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #94

Because "Scootaloo" is going to dictate to Arabs all about their culture and heritage. MADem Apr 2015 #96

Not at all. i'm just telling you that you lack such entitlement yourself Scootaloo Apr 2015 #99

Yeah, it IS up to the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee. They've tried to tell you MADem Apr 2015 #103

An Arab American organization is not the same as an Arab organization. merrily Apr 2015 #168

fareed was born into a muslim family, DesertFlower Apr 2015 #72

You don't have to practice religion to be a Muslim. MADem Apr 2015 #78

Um...you lost me here. My mother is a Christian. I am not. PassingFair Apr 2015 #183

The Christians, by and large, do not share the same viewpoint. MADem Apr 2015 #201

You have the same thing in Catholicism and Judaism. CJCRANE Apr 2015 #292

in that case would obama be a muslim DesertFlower Apr 2015 #250

According to fundamentalists, yes--because his father would not be viewed as an atheist. MADem Apr 2015 #282

This reminds me of a story. stone space Apr 2015 #187

Are Pakistanis Arab? How about Indonesians? brooklynite Apr 2015 #191

No, Arab is not a race. Most Arabs are Caucasians. totodeinhere Apr 2015 #305

How can he be racist towards Islam when Islam is not a race? philosslayer Apr 2015 #257

How can you be racist against a religion? Shoulders of Giants Apr 2015 #264

But Islam is not a race. It's a religion. So I think that "bigot" totodeinhere Apr 2015 #304

he is calling it like it is. samsingh Apr 2015 #354

Anti-Islamic or prejudice against Muslims would be more correct than racist still_one Apr 2015 #4

It's not just Muslims One of the 99 Apr 2015 #6

obviously great minds think alike, thanks still_one Apr 2015 #21

Bullshit. truebrit71 Apr 2015 #7

Nor did I state that he said anything specifically racist tonight. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #14

You know he's a comedian, right? truebrit71 Apr 2015 #230

And a political commentator. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #247

Maher's not anti-religion. He's anti-not-his-religions Scootaloo Apr 2015 #27

There is no dogma. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #81

As i said, I hate the term "militant atheists," but lack better terminology Scootaloo Apr 2015 #87

Is it all criticism of religion that you particularly dislike? LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #91

Sounds to me like you know very little about Hitchens... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #232

That's pretty much exactly what I think. delrem Apr 2015 #84

This too is bullshit... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #227

What it all boils down to... Archae Apr 2015 #12

He IS an asshole. It's that simple. LuvNewcastle Apr 2015 #121

Post one of his racist quotes please! Or self delete. Nt Logical Apr 2015 #13

How about calling the President 'Chocolate Jesus' on many occasions. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #15

Then supporting him, even contributing a million bucks. Hoyt Apr 2015 #17

and dating Black women HipChick Apr 2015 #19

Yes no racist ever dated a black women. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #211

How is that even racist? leeroysphitz Apr 2015 #20

If Rush had said it One of the 99 Apr 2015 #139

Limbaugh would say it with different intent. Hoyt Apr 2015 #192

How do you know what the intent is? One of the 99 Apr 2015 #208

In this case, Yes. I can also tell you are just being obtuse. Hoyt Apr 2015 #223

Can you also predict lottery numbers? One of the 99 Apr 2015 #224

Your winner for today is 6, 14, 27, 28, 32, 45, 49. Good luck. Hoyt Apr 2015 #225

Thanks One of the 99 Apr 2015 #246

I love Chris Rock, who like Maher is a comic. Chris, who is not a bigot, does in fact use the word Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #196

Not trying to censor anyone One of the 99 Apr 2015 #207

Excuse me, I did not sugest you were trying to censor anyone, that's uncalled for bullshit. Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #238

Maher has gone on sunday shows as a commentator One of the 99 Apr 2015 #248

This message was self-deleted by its author Paladin Apr 2015 #255

Here's the vile racist with his most recent girlfriend on holiday in Hawaii... MADem Apr 2015 #67

Thinking the same thing...didn't have the picture... PCIntern Apr 2015 #128

Thanks for this! nt Logical Apr 2015 #173

Proves nothing One of the 99 Apr 2015 #213

Oh, it proves something, it proves that MADem Apr 2015 #216

So what? One of the 99 Apr 2015 #222

I'd suggest that it does, you're free to hold a different opinion if you like. MADem Apr 2015 #290

Donald Sterling had a black girlfriend too One of the 99 Apr 2015 #296

Did he give a million dollars to a Democratic POTUS's campaign, too? MADem Apr 2015 #312

No but the was a major contributor to the NAACP One of the 99 Apr 2015 #322

You introduced Sterling into this conversation--a man who doesn't have a talk show and, near as any MADem Apr 2015 #325

Sorry, but One of the 99 Apr 2015 #329

You're not sorry at all. MADem Apr 2015 #330

I'm sorry that One of the 99 Apr 2015 #331

He said nothing racist--"Islam" is not a race. It's a religion practiced by people of all races. MADem Apr 2015 #332

It's not just about what he said about Islam One of the 99 Apr 2015 #334

Oh, don't be absurd. MADem Apr 2015 #338

Do you work for Maher? One of the 99 Apr 2015 #342

This isn't about me, and no, I don't "work for Maher." What a foolish assumption. MADem Apr 2015 #345

Not foolish with all the time and effort you're putting into One of the 99 Apr 2015 #346

I'm not the one making detailed "TLDR" posts--YOU are. MADem Apr 2015 #347

But will you hold Maher to the same standard One of the 99 Apr 2015 #348

We're done here--apparently you're the only one not figuring it out. MADem Apr 2015 #349

If we're done, why do you keep replying? One of the 99 Apr 2015 #350

You'll have to keep waiting. Buh-bye. nt MADem Apr 2015 #352

Then I guess you don't have an answer. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #365

I'd say YOU don't. Buh-bye!!! MADem Apr 2015 #366

Back again. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #367

Yes, you are "back again." Buh-bye! nt MADem Apr 2015 #368

You keep saying buh-bye but you keep coming back. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #369

As do you. See how that works? Buh-bye! nt MADem Apr 2015 #370

But I'm not saying buh-bye. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #371

Nor can you! Buh-bye! nt MADem Apr 2015 #372

Why should I? One of the 99 Apr 2015 #373

I have no idea why you "should" do anything--and you disproved nothing! Buh-bye! nt MADem Apr 2015 #374

Yes I have. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #378

No, you haven't. Buh-bye! nt MADem Apr 2015 #379

You know I have One of the 99 Apr 2015 #380

I know you haven't. Poor you. Buh-bye! MADem Apr 2015 #381

That's just denial One of the 99 Apr 2015 #382

You haven't proved he IS racist. arcane1 Apr 2015 #252

His own words do. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #271

No they don't. Only you do. arcane1 Apr 2015 #272

I didn't say this One of the 99 Apr 2015 #274

Well then, I'm convinced! arcane1 Apr 2015 #276

I think that is called denial One of the 99 Apr 2015 #277

I used to think he hated all religion equally but he is definitely an Islamaphobe. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #18

Oh yeah - so obvious; a 'water is wet' observation. closeupready Apr 2015 #23

I can't watch the man anymore. plus he is not even funny anymore. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #25

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #39

"Muslims are easr to hate these days" Not a very progressive response. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #41

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #107

fyi Joel thakkar Apr 2015 #112

I probably shouldn't be surprised that you would say that. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #119

Provide a link where I argued that it had nithing to do with religion. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #214

Still waiting for the link. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #270

You've got to be kidding, Bill ate his lunch. PeteSelman Apr 2015 #28

Bill Maher's shtick is getting old. As for Fareed Z, he is an intelligent and thoughtful man.... Hekate Apr 2015 #33

I like Bill Maher Dpm12 Apr 2015 #34

Fellatio Brett Fitz Apr 2015 #35

Not racist, just an ethnocentric prick. Warpy Apr 2015 #45

Maher didn't talk about race. He spoke about RELIGION. valerief Apr 2015 #49

Bill Maher is not a racist, on the other hand, akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #59

I think you're thinking of Martin Bashir peequod Apr 2015 #64

Thanks for the clarification. I still believe that akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #66

Ok, his music was indeed awesome peequod Apr 2015 #337

No, he's not racist. Antireligion, but not racist. /nt AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #76

He really is JonLP24 Apr 2015 #85

Lol..this is funny Joel thakkar Apr 2015 #98

Thanks for a great post & some rationality on this ridiculous OP. RiverLover Apr 2015 #138

Excellent post. romanic Apr 2015 #154

excellent post! Fareed Zakaria ain't no lefty, that's for sure. nt m-lekktor Apr 2015 #193

Joel, YOU WON THIS THREAD! It was funny for a bit, then it revealed a saddening reality. nt TheBlackAdder Apr 2015 #200

A bigot is someone who hates a person because of something intrinsic to that person kcr Apr 2015 #212

Intrinsic Joel thakkar Apr 2015 #215

Someone's religion is intrinsic, though. kcr Apr 2015 #259

How is religion intrinsic exactly? whatthehey Apr 2015 #333

Racism and bigotry are never funny One of the 99 Apr 2015 #220

Yes, racism and bigory are never funny and maher did none of it Joel thakkar Apr 2015 #236

Yes he did. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #302

Who are you to decide ? Joel thakkar Apr 2015 #318

It's my opinion, deal with it. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #324

Bingo. It's amazing how people will twist and turn to make this something sinister. arcane1 Apr 2015 #253

So now when you put down religions your racist? B Calm Apr 2015 #101

... and guilty of cultism LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #122

Bill did mention how crazy the PC police can get. B Calm Apr 2015 #125

new rules. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #176

Bill is anti Islam Tommy2Tone Apr 2015 #163

Bill Maher used to be an entertainer. He's no longer entertaining. The end. (nt) Paladin Apr 2015 #165

You better tell that to the swiftly sold out concert hall full of people coming to see him this week Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #198

I've watched Maher's shows for years. Paladin Apr 2015 #206

I will inform the media. nt Logical Apr 2015 #219

Of course I respect your personal taste and nothing I said suggested otherwise. You did not Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #226

Way too much hostile judgment from you. Paladin Apr 2015 #228

Where is the judgement? I'm asking you what comics you find funny. You have no respect for me Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #234

Sorry, you haven't earned any further right to critique my preferences. Paladin Apr 2015 #239

Wow. There was no discussion to end, just you pontificating and making personal attacks at me. Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #240

Bills audience will certainly let you know whose side they're on by the applause. Stellar Apr 2015 #174

What I learned from this fabulous thread: Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #175

mmm hmm PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #217

True, but it is GD on the weekend. Dr. Strange Apr 2015 #229

lol Mosby Apr 2015 #231

This post wins the thread (nt) LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #265

Yup nt riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #303

The vile misogyny he exhibited before this should have been a clue. cbayer Apr 2015 #184

Yawn... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #335

yes he is Enrique Apr 2015 #185

You can say he's anti Islam, but Islam is not a race. Shoulders of Giants Apr 2015 #189

My gawd, what a stupid thread. Who gives a shit, anyway? Wasting all this time and energy ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #237

Zakaria is a conservative. It's unusal to see a Union avatar endorsing his Union busting ass. Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #242

So what? One of the 99 Apr 2015 #245

Great idea! Let's start channeling Coulter, Limbaugh, and O'Reilly Major Nikon Apr 2015 #288

Irrelevant One of the 99 Apr 2015 #297

Maher is anti-union too One of the 99 Apr 2015 #299

Bill Maher is a Union Member. Are you? Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #309

Only because he is forced to be to work One of the 99 Apr 2015 #310

Oh so all the pro union stuff he says on Real time does not exist? LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #317

I give him credit for that One of the 99 Apr 2015 #323

And I'm sure you have abundant examplpes of this "vile racism", right? arcane1 Apr 2015 #251

How about this... One of the 99 Apr 2015 #340

LOL that's the best you can do? arcane1 Apr 2015 #343

No One of the 99 Apr 2015 #344

Funny and sad how wheniwasincongress Apr 2015 #256

KNR to counter the pro-bigots here today... joeybee12 Apr 2015 #261

Thank!!! One of the 99 Apr 2015 #269

Religion is not the same as race/skin color! Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #263

Wow the semantics police are out in force. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #268

It'd be great if they had a clue about the subtlety of the terminology, delrem Apr 2015 #281

Probably because the semantics matter Major Nikon Apr 2015 #287

Tell that to Maher One of the 99 Apr 2015 #298

... Major Nikon Apr 2015 #300

Hey, Straight Person, the 'semantics' of that which is a choice and that which is an inborn Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #308

I agree One of the 99 Apr 2015 #311

Well, duh! mimi85 Apr 2015 #286

Fareed is good. rainmaker21 Apr 2015 #306

No, he's not. Fareed Zakaria was saying it's Bill's job to change the minds of people about Muslims beaglelover Apr 2015 #307

I have to side with Bill on this one. SamKnause Apr 2015 #327

Fareed was a year behind me at Yale KamaAina Apr 2015 #336

Ha ha ha --Cap "If they nail me, I'm taking ALL OF YOU BASTARDS DOWN WITH ME" Weinberger!!!! MADem Apr 2015 #339

Biggot? Absolutley. Asshole? Absolutley. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #341

for the most part he's telling it like it is. i don't think he's a racist samsingh Apr 2015 #351

No he not One of the 99 Apr 2015 #364

Why are you so afraid of Bill Maher that you have to make up crap about him? Is B Calm Apr 2015 #353

Not making up anything. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #362

I was turned off about what he said about Moderate Christians LynneSin Apr 2015 #360

People argue... odd_duck Apr 2015 #375

Great Point!!!! NT One of the 99 Apr 2015 #377

So what else is new? BM has been showin his true racist colors for a while now. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #376