Bill Maher is really turning into a vile racist

[Joel thakkar]

236. Yes, racism and bigory are never funny and maher did none of it

1) So you agree that it is not racism, right ? Now according to you bigot is someone who holds their views when facts prove them wrong. Bill thinks pew surveys are facts and even fareed didn't disputed it. Thus, now tell me who is a bigot when bill and fareed both agrees on pew survey ?

2 and 3) Zakaria's main point was Maher's method of reforming muslims and islam religion is not right, while his method is right. Both of them have many similar goals , just have different method in mind of achieving it.

He says to maher that IF YOU REALLY WANT TO CHANGE ISLAM RELIGION , speak in some sort of "respect" for the spirituality value that people take. That's it...you can look at the whole segment :

Never did he said that "Maher was unfairly the whole religion and all of its followers"...even when bill says : suppose it is social club which says "women are 2nd class citizens" "gay people should be put to death"...Fareed quickly says : but that's not all 1.6 Billion people and BILL SAYS "NOT ALL". THUS, HE IS CLEARLY NOT TARGETING ALL THE FOLLOWERS OF THE RELIGION.

After that fareed says he is not disputing the pew survey figures...Btw, the most recent survey done by Pew is of 2013 and not in 2011 (as claimed by fareed)..thus, even if it was done in 2011, it was not one time.

After that bill asks you don't think it is a widespread belief in muslim word that death is appropriate punishment for leaving religion...Fareed said "I don't know" because i didn't conduct the survey...

Now here is the survey finding :



You can dispute the numbers but fareed has said he himself is not disputing the numbers.

Fareed after gives example of Indonesia, a muslim majority country where minorities are living happily :

Indonesia Religious Persecution :
http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2011/02/religious_persecution_indonesia

Indonesia, the great country where 72% muslims support sharia :



Indonesia, the great country where 93% think wife should obey her husband



Thus, fareed himself contradicts when he says he is not disputing pew survey numbers and quote "indonesia" as an example islamic majority country. I am not saying that all countries are supporting sharia, women as 2nd class citizens but it is spreaded about quite a few muslims and to turn a blind eye on it is foolish. Similar goes for all religion majority countries and not only islam.

After, that fareed shifts the goal post to "Arab Countries" and says the problem is there. Yes, the problem of Jihadism, ISIS, Killings, Bombing etc is there is "Arab Countries" but that doesn't take away the fact that 72% of indonesian muslims prefer sharia law and 93% of them considers wife should obey her husband.

Now fareed again says cancer in islam but the basic difference in us is how we will fix it..that's it..where does he says you are treating islam and muslims unfairly ? He just says your method is not changing those people.

Now bill says, some things that ISIS believes is supported by hundreds of millions of muslims all around...Suddenly fareed says to say that 100s of millions believe the same thing as ISIS is not true..sudenly Maher says he is not talking about beheading/burning people alive etc..he says they believe "IF YOU MAKE FUN OF THE PROPHET DEATH IS WHAT COMES TO YOU"

yes, and the same thing happened in Jan 2015..Thousands and thousands people protest against Charlie Hebdo in Pak and many other countries for making fun of prophet

http://time.com/3672871/charlie-hebdo-pakistan/

Don't you think these thousands of muslims would have thought that Charlie hebdo journalists got what they deserved as they made fun of prophet ?

Now, fareed says do these people go around burning people or killing it like charlie hebdo terrorist did ? He again missed the point. Bill said these thousand of people won't go on killing spree but they will be happy that few people killed those charlie hebdo journalists as they insulted prophet and fareed again continue that these people are not stoning people to death by missing the main point that they won't actually kill or they will say "Charlie Hebdo" asked for his death for insulting the prophet.


4) Yeah..i know..many people will do that..previously i have seen users here quoting "Gay-hating" conservative organizations just to prove how prostitution is bad..some people will quote some random quote from the other side of aisle to prove their point.

5) Here is the source interview : http://www.jewishjournal.com/hollywoodjew/item/bill_maher_on_israel_uncut_and_uncensored

The question was asked that why you make less fun of judaism..He answers : he did it in our documentary "religulous" and says it is not a warlike religion like Christianity or Islam...Maybe he is true..maybe he is not..i did make a post here on DU saying that i agree with his view that all religions are bullshit (including Judaism, to which he did make fun in the documentary) but i don't agree with the view that islam is more moronic and has a special place : http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026473305

6) As i said in my previous post, you can take it literally..not always as joke..even if you take it literally, see his actions where he has always stand with black people..he supported obama twice, millions of $$ for donation, ferguson, chicago, legal reforms for helping black community etc..etc..and yes, many white racist people don't even want a black person around them, let alone date one. And also the girl is 31 years old..she is completely able to understand by herself is bill maher is racist or not.

7)Yes, it is relevant as someone here quoted his video interview with israel president.. (subtle hint that he is zionist and anti-muslim)...yes, i just pointed out how good pro-zionist, pro-netanyahu bill maher is happy with the iran deal which zionist and netanyahu opposed.

8) No, who are you to decide if it is a racist comment or not ? Do you have any survey findings ? Is your survey company trusted and old ? I just pointed out that PC people usually alienate supporters of them just on silly issues...Now you may try to also spin that i said "racism" is silly issue, which is not what i said. We fundamentally disagree on if he is a racist person or not.

9) Not diversion, just answering some other person in the thread, so says he is anti-muslim etc..etc..yeah..he is suck an anti-Muslim that he will always strive for not raging a war with muslim countries...have friends like reza aslam etc..etc

10) Never said that the reply was only for you..i have answered multiple users in one reply...again, he has not made any racist or bigoted comments. Does majority of US population, media, politicians agree with you that he has made any racist comment ? Have you seen any popular black peoples movement against bill maher ? Heck, more people on DU disagree with you than agreeing with you..and yes, isis/beheading part is completely true..Isis beheads shias, ahmaddiyas, bohra and even sunnis if they don't agree on few issues..( now don't spin it and say that previously i said that majority of muslims agree with isis, that is on sharia and women as 2nd class citizens issue, not on beheading/burning). Thus, muslims around the world would feel threatened by isis. Faux news will actually report that muslims around the love isis and esp. on those beheading/burning issues..thus, what i said is exactly opposite from faux news would report.

11) Google agrees with my definition :



But let's say i accept your definition too. Bill maher states his views on FACTS - PEW Surveys. Do you have any counter survey from a reputed survey organization which proves Pew survey wrong ? I think you should contact other reputed survey companies and tell them to do the exact same surveys. See, if they have same findings or different.