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122. Many more do and I agree there will be a primary.

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Do you like America 2015? Then you'll *love* Hillary 2016. [View all] MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 OP

I will take Hillary as president anyday of the week Manny. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #1

So you must like how things have gone the past 20 years. MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #2

You should never presume to know my opinion sir. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #4

I can't think of any other scenario that makes sense? MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #5

Then you can't think vlyons Apr 2015 #76

The problem Manny is madokie Apr 2015 #82

Compared to what? What it might have been under complete GOP rule? nt kelliekat44 Apr 2015 #165

I don't agree, I am 'of our party' and I am waiting for a more progressive candidate to announce. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #8

The polls say that she is ahead. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #9

Behind several Republicans in some battleground states MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #11

And next week she will be back ahead after the announcement. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #13

And what if she is not? zeemike Apr 2015 #34

Then the opposition to Hillary in our party needs to stop complaining and put up someone. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #37

I expect they will. zeemike Apr 2015 #50

Warren could beat her but she will not run. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #53

Not if he is a stalking horse. zeemike Apr 2015 #54

We disagree on that. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #56

That is not what a stalking horse does. zeemike Apr 2015 #58

i am sorry, your right. I think Sanders will run and be her strongest challenger but won't win. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #64

That's where you are wrong. Smithryee Apr 2015 #79

I doubt it. She will answer your questions when she is a candidate. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #101

and/or aiming to be V.P. until it's "his turn." merrily Apr 2015 #78

Yep that too. zeemike Apr 2015 #96

as the person wanting the job, it is her job to offer more then ops DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #74

She will answer per the consensus of over 200 campaign advisors and merrily Apr 2015 #80

lol, Hillary is the world's expert at not answering tough questions. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #97

No she can't. Once she is a candidate she has to answer. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #100

we must be doing somethign right DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #103

Are you saying she needs her husband to explain things? she can't do it herself? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #106

well, she can prove me wrong DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #108

That is a dodge. You made a comment that she will need her husband toexplain things for her. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #110

well, how is that not true? DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #118

So are you saying she can't do this by herself? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #121

I am saying I have not seen her do it DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #168

For your information Hillary is a highly intelligent woman and got to her position hrmjustin Apr 2015 #169

first off DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #170

I doubt we will be comrades. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #171

you do not think DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #172

I wasn't talking about everyone else who does not support her. i was talking about you. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #173

fair enough DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #174

That is fine but after your comments I doubt we will be comrades. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #175

What other Dems have announced they are running, or indicated they are running. And will she refuse sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Apr 2015 #15

Asking you what other Dems are running is talking down to you? You said 'she is ahead in the polls' sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #16

i read it wrong. i will self delete and answer your question. my apologies. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #18

You can't beat Hillary with ops. If you don't want her then get a candidate to run. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #19

Do you know where we might find a billion dollars for another candidate? Would Wall St fund eg, sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #20

Excuses! If they were the nominee they would have to take money from Wall Street to win. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #21

Even Obama took money from JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, etc. joshcryer Apr 2015 #31

Agreed! I love how it is Hillary's fault that she can raise a lot of money. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #33

Why do you think Wall St loves her so much? Do you think Wall St would give Warren so much money? sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #59

And I "love it" that those who support her seem to LOVE a system that has money determine who runs.. cascadiance Apr 2015 #142

You should not presume to know my opinion. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #143

Well Hillary seems to thrive in this system and doesn't want to take it down at all... cascadiance Apr 2015 #145

Realistically to change the system you will need a constitutional amendment. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #148

"Even Obama" LOL! merrily Apr 2015 #81

Obama got far more from millions of small contributors mylye2222 Apr 2015 #86

I don't think that is accurate, especially if you think about "soft money," where the biggest merrily Apr 2015 #87

LOL! joshcryer Apr 2015 #94

And THAT is why they are owned in such a way that promotes voter apathy and disaffection! cascadiance Apr 2015 #147

The system is what it is. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #149

Thanks to Republicans and corporate Democrats that have corrupted it! cascadiance Apr 2015 #153

Well i wish you well with your candidate. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #154

At this point in 2007 the polls said she was ahead for 2008 rury Apr 2015 #39

At this point in 2007 it was clear she had strong opposition. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #42

I disagree davidpdx Apr 2015 #60

Obama caught fire by the summer and announced before hillary. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #63

No. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #70

I meant the summer of 2007. His numbers got better after the Jefferson Jackson dinner in Iowa. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #71

His chances improved, but he was still a long shot going into the fall which is where it started to davidpdx Apr 2015 #161

The JJD was the start of his rise in the Iowa polls. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #162

No it was not CLEAR at this point in 2007 that she had strong oppostion. rury Apr 2015 #127

It was clear by the summer of 2007. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #128

Uh... NO, it wasn't. Not until this time a year later in that election... cascadiance Apr 2015 #131

You are looking at national polls. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #132

Yes he did, but Iowa is one state davidpdx Apr 2015 #163

Iowa is the state that starts people off. it was a big moment. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #164

Yeah it was, I remember it davidpdx Apr 2015 #166

I am all for campaign finance reform. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #167

No it was not clear by the summer of 2007 rury Apr 2015 #176

In Iowa he started making headway in the summer. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #178

Then why isn't she president now? cascadiance Apr 2015 #129

Be ause a strong candidate was also in the race and won. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #130

Translated... "A candidate promising hope and change" won... cascadiance Apr 2015 #133

Warren is not running. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #134

*Now*.... Just like Obama was many times "not running" THEN! cascadiance Apr 2015 #135

Warren is not running. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #136

If it won't happen why do you all continue to note this? cascadiance Apr 2015 #138

I note this because Warren has pointed this out countless times. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #139

And the press keeps hounding her for an answer... cascadiance Apr 2015 #140

Warren is still not running. if she did run it would be competitive race but... hrmjustin Apr 2015 #141

And you continue to remind us of this, even if you think it's not worth worrying about... cascadiance Apr 2015 #144

Oh I would worry if she did run but... hrmjustin Apr 2015 #146

+1000000 n/t MissDeeds Apr 2015 #107

many of us don't marym625 Apr 2015 #119

Many more do and I agree there will be a primary. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #122

I guess we'll see marym625 Apr 2015 #124

I don't agree. 840high Apr 2015 #158

ok. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #159

Manny, you're a Putin Lover! Lol! sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #3

Boot licker. MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #6

Boot licker, well at least that isn't one of the old right wing 'insults' against Dems that have now sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #10

I never 'got' the bootlicking thing. Dirty socks and sucking on toes, perhaps but licking boots Purveyor Apr 2015 #38

n/t blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #7

Somewhat accurate characterization. joshcryer Apr 2015 #12

During most of the Bush years, she was a Senator from NY MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #17

And during her time as a Senator from NY, my state, she continued to support the funding of Bush's sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #22

most people blame Bush for the war which is why Hillary has so much support now JI7 Apr 2015 #23

Yes, Bush was invading anyway. joshcryer Apr 2015 #35

"she took a leadership position in urging her fellow Democrats to vote for it." malokvale77 Apr 2015 #25

Well, she had a liberal voting record. joshcryer Apr 2015 #26

No. MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #27

I would not say that free trade counts more than LGBT rights. joshcryer Apr 2015 #29

I love how 90 percent doesn't count. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #30

Would you agree that votes to start the Iraq War, or to @#$% MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #43

What stance did she take on LGBT issues MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #32

What stance did she take after the majority of Americans? joshcryer Apr 2015 #41

Marriage equality. nt MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #44

Your post #27 was about votes, Manny. joshcryer Apr 2015 #51

She is just fine on LGBT issues. you're reaching here and it shows. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #57

Secretary Clinton's Historic Speech on LGBT Human Rights - "Gay rights are human rights" sheshe2 Apr 2015 #69

Doesn't "really count" sheshe2. joshcryer Apr 2015 #73

"She has evolved" = the wind became so strong she could no longer fight/ignore it Doctor_J Apr 2015 #126

In the 90s....she refused to fire her openly gay COS, even after Republican msanthrope Apr 2015 #55

Hillary is inevitable. It's time to get on board and stop tearing down the nominee. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #24

The Hillary years will be more war war and less jaw jaw leveymg Apr 2015 #28

Why do people attribute godlike powers to her? Senator and SOS does NOT equal god. McCamy Taylor Apr 2015 #36

OK. So what are a few specific things Hillary's accomplished MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #40

You have got to be kidding?? Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #72

Well sir, 99Forever Apr 2015 #92

She voted for funding Ming's war on the universe? L0oniX Apr 2015 #151

Right on. n/t zentrum Apr 2015 #45

actually I am loving 2015! sheshe2 Apr 2015 #46

AGREED! Dpm12 Apr 2015 #52

Dpm! sheshe2 Apr 2015 #62

Well played! hrmjustin Apr 2015 #65

Lol~ Thanks. sheshe2 Apr 2015 #66

Good or Bad, I wondered about 2015... Stellar Apr 2015 #83

Plus going to Jamaica and the Bob Marley Museum treestar Apr 2015 #112

+1000! zappaman Apr 2015 #115

pretending to be morally pure. stonecutter357 Apr 2015 #47

I hope Al Gore or Jerry Brown run Dpm12 Apr 2015 #48

Frankly, she should not run. She should just go away! akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #49

Why did he make her Secretary Of State then? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #123

Beats the heck out of America 2001-2008, and that's the alternative. ucrdem Apr 2015 #61

What the hell is your 'deal', Manny? randome Apr 2015 #67

Negative works better. That's why almost every politician out there goes negative too. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #88

No, to a 'public forum' standard since his 'campaign' is solely to express his personal distaste. randome Apr 2015 #89

Well... Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #99

And only one agenda emulatorloo Apr 2015 #109

The 'end game' I see is that Manny wants a different Dem nominee than Hillary. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #125

trouble is there aren't two or more sides in this primary yet treestar Apr 2015 #113

Exactly. Andy823 Apr 2015 #102

and i'll bet you don't include limbaugh in that handful certainot Apr 2015 #68

The main problem with America 2015 is.. DCBob Apr 2015 #75

Sounds 100% better than us having another republican recession! Go Hillary! B Calm Apr 2015 #77

I think you're giving her waaaaay too much credit tularetom Apr 2015 #84

Better believe it!...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #85

Gotta love our Ivy League friend. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #98

I would appreciate more building up of a viable alternative to Hillary and... Tom Rinaldo Apr 2015 #90

I like Hillary. Problem is we can't afford more of the same. Autumn Apr 2015 #91

She cannot unite the party fadedrose Apr 2015 #93

It's going to be a campaign ...for who gets the most campaign money. L0oniX Apr 2015 #152

Personally... 99Forever Apr 2015 #95

Yeah a president cruz and VP walker who be so much better eh? workinclasszero Apr 2015 #104

It's better than 2008... SidDithers Apr 2015 #105

Yet another thread on it? treestar Apr 2015 #111

The number of "Hillary Bad" OPs is about to go up significantly. JoePhilly Apr 2015 #114

Ah.. the year the Supreme Court is going to validate marriage equality? brooklynite Apr 2015 #116

Don't give up the ship, Manny! Until the Electoral College votes... brooklynite Apr 2015 #117

K&R marym625 Apr 2015 #120

I cannot find an equivalent candidate that could beat her. Rex Apr 2015 #137

... sheshe2 Apr 2015 #155

I can't wait for all her implied campaign promises to ...ooops sorry ...can't do ...war time. L0oniX Apr 2015 #150

How ironic that Bill Clinton's 1996 campaign slogan was "Building a bridge to the 21st century". BlueStater Apr 2015 #156

+1 840high Apr 2015 #160

is there anyone selling anything else? Depaysement Apr 2015 #157

This is one of your dumber threads. PBass Apr 2015 #177