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GliderGuider

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15. Good questions.
Sat May 5, 2012, 05:07 PM
May 2012

I define Global Industrial Civilization™ as the web of corporate empires that uses global trade in industrial goods, money and information to bind the planet in a memetic web devoted to ownership, growth and profit.

Yes, all civilizations are unsustainable. What makes this one different from those that preceded it is that it has exceeded the carrying capacity not just of a region but of the planet as a whole, with all that implies for the other life that shares it.

I personally suggest adapting to the coming changes through various mechanisms of re-localization; by discarding the memes of growth and profit to whatever extent is possible; and by rebuilding the links between individuals and the natural world (reconstituting communities and replacing economic views with ecological views). But these are just my suggestions. There are seven billion suggestion-generators on the planet right now, all of them different. what would you suggest?

My comment about tribes refers to the fact that they worked as the primary social organization for hundreds of thousands of years. That's a long track record of success in my book. Individuals have always been the agents of adaptation - they are where the ideas come from.

I'll turn your last question back to you: What would "awakening" mean to you?

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Screw that, I'm living forever and helping colonize the galaxy. Odin2005 May 2012 #1
Good luck with that! nt GliderGuider May 2012 #18
Assuming we're talking about something this side of Mad Max IDemo May 2012 #2
The thing is, "AK guy" will eventually come across another "AK Guy," and if neither of them villager May 2012 #3
Eventually a band AK guys will form a "kingdom" Speck Tater May 2012 #5
At least until someone sets the farm on fire. Zalatix May 2012 #13
The dynamics of the AK guys will vary IDemo May 2012 #6
You are thinking that the early adopters don't have AK's also. ret5hd May 2012 #10
I'd never think that IDemo May 2012 #24
As soon as we get over romanticizing information flow, things will work out saras May 2012 #4
Now THAT is a fascinating insight. Thanks!!! nt GliderGuider May 2012 #17
Thank you for this post. truedelphi May 2012 #7
And thank you a thousand times for this response. Zalatix May 2012 #9
And imagine what it would be like if, instead of a San Diego student, GliderGuider May 2012 #16
well, cali May 2012 #8
Good questions. GliderGuider May 2012 #15
In short - or rather my version - stop waiting until we're IN xchrom May 2012 #11
I think we're already well into the crisis. GliderGuider May 2012 #12
i don't disagree. but i do think we need to develop both trains. nt xchrom May 2012 #14
Just read an absorbing article which agrees with you: dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #19
Something I want to meantion about the so-called "Dark Ages". Odin2005 May 2012 #20
We're not going back to the paleolithic, or even the medieval era. GliderGuider May 2012 #21
I agree on the social organization part. Odin2005 May 2012 #23
Oh, and another thing I thought of... Odin2005 May 2012 #25
Oh well... greytdemocrat May 2012 #22
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