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H2O Man

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39. I think it is self-evident, but
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 11:05 AM
Apr 2015

will try to explain ....keeping in mind that my attempt cannot be taken as anything more than my impression, since it was my son who said the words that you chose to be upset by this morning.

We are entering the 2016 primary season. Hence, what has happened before might be viewed as significant -- at least to people such as my son -- in that no candidate has yet taken the approach that he suggests Hillary Clinton could take. No one that I am aware of has suggested that Ms. Clinton alone has access to large sums of money for a presidential campaign. But as my son noted, she could take a very different -- hence, unique -- approach to using that resource.

That any potential republican candidate for 2016 will have enormous amounts of money to spend is obviously beyond question. I will speculate that even you will agree that it is unlikely that any republican presidential candidate would seriously consider investing such resources in anything other than a highly-polished campaign of lies. Indeed, it is more likely that cats will bark, and dogs meow, than a republican candidate for national office undertake such an approach.

Among potential Democratic Party candidates in the primaries, I suppose it is possible to argue that others will have similar access to financial resources as Ms. Clinton in this contest. But that would only prove that person likes to argue, and places being disagreeable as a greater goal than dealing with the harsh, cold realities of modern political contests. By any and all objective measures, Ms. Clinton has the ability to raise -- by far -- more money than any other potential Democratic Party candidate. That puts her in a unique position.

Hillary Clinton is also in a unique position, in terms of the national corporate media reporting on virtually every move she makes. This, of course, has both positive and negative potentials. But the reality is that she is a high-profile person. This status provides her the opportunity to be reported upon, regardless of what she does. In a "usual" campaign, that unfortunately allows the media to present her almost entirely in the context that they have for decades.

Thus, we have the expected package -- both what her campaign hopes to present, and what the corporations that own the major media sources want to sell. Again, this is, as you note, the same as with any politician. This includes presenting their views on the three primary issues: social, economic, and foreign policy. As a general rule, both campaigns and the media present these issues in a routine package.

Hillary Clinton has the ability -- including the financial resources -- to change how these matters are presented, and understood, by the American people. Despite the corporate media. And that, at least in my opinion, is unique. But I appreciate that you see it differently.

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This sounds a lot like the 50 state strategy. joshcryer Apr 2015 #1
Both when my son was H2O Man Apr 2015 #30
Seems that 2naSalit Apr 2015 #2
At an estimated $+2billion on each side, delrem Apr 2015 #3
Why does it cost billions of dollars to run for POTUS? Rex Apr 2015 #4
Because that's how a certain % achieve a satisfactory outcome. delrem Apr 2015 #5
The Koches, Sheldon Adelson, the republican money machine will spend that much to spew lies, venom, NBachers Apr 2015 #7
I don't think that has ever been proven. Don't know if it can be proven. merrily Apr 2015 #27
If Lots Of DUers Can't Stand Her... billhicks76 Apr 2015 #6
DUers aren't at all representative of the broader Democratic party, much less pnwmom Apr 2015 #8
The notion that Hillary is too liberal comes from the misinformation merchants. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #10
The notion she isn't liberal comes from the same people pnwmom Apr 2015 #11
You have asked them all? Enthusiast Apr 2015 #13
She's Liberal On Safe Issues billhicks76 Apr 2015 #17
I didn't say that because I am trying to avoid cross words. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #19
You nailed it Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #59
That's it exactly. JimDandy Apr 2015 #56
Age Old Deflective Tactic billhicks76 Apr 2015 #57
Toss A Bone Some Might Go And Fetch It billhicks76 Apr 2015 #58
DUers Are Not That Liberal Or Progressive As A Whole billhicks76 Apr 2015 #16
kucinich being popular on DU didn't help him much JI7 Apr 2015 #12
People Loved Obama billhicks76 Apr 2015 #18
When President Obama was elected in 2008 with an overwhelming majority Enthusiast Apr 2015 #21
you've lost all credibility when you say "the electorate thought of Obama as liberal" KittyWampus Apr 2015 #25
I've lost all credibility? LMAO! THE ELECTORATE THOUGHT OF OBAMA AS A LIBERAL. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #48
obama was not loved by many on du JI7 Apr 2015 #44
The meme is that DU's left is not representative of US Democrats as a whole. merrily Apr 2015 #28
An interesting perspective indeed! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #9
I'm no expert on campaign finance law Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #14
my first thought mercuryblues Apr 2015 #15
I was an expert many years ago Jim Lane Apr 2015 #24
There is no doubt a way to do achieve the goal, even if not with "campaign" funds per se. merrily Apr 2015 #29
Functional equivalent, but then so would be promising to increase social security benefits, etc. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #45
How about promising to increase defense spending? merrily Apr 2015 #49
Ideologically, I agree with you. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #50
I'm confused. Did you read the subject line of my Reply 29 to you? merrily Apr 2015 #51
Yeah, I get it. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #53
My only point was, we do not disagree on use of campaign funds. merrily Apr 2015 #54
Gotcha. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #55
fresh and thoughtful ideas MBS Apr 2015 #20
A great leader will change the way that people think. Zorra Apr 2015 #22
It's a great idea. The weakness is such a strategy would require the media to report KittyWampus Apr 2015 #23
Your son is a chip malaise Apr 2015 #26
'Unique' means : being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else. Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #31
Interesting. H2O Man Apr 2015 #33
And how is it unique and not the same opportunity presented to Obama or any other candidate? Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #38
I think it is self-evident, but H2O Man Apr 2015 #39
I don't think you are even close to having a clue as to what I am talking about. Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #42
Oh, I do. H2O Man Apr 2015 #47
Any real change has to come from the ground up and a candidate mmonk Apr 2015 #32
Well said. H2O Man Apr 2015 #34
Yes, they do it opposite. They manufacture consent and followers. mmonk Apr 2015 #35
They inject social H2O Man Apr 2015 #36
Yep. Confortably numb. mmonk Apr 2015 #37
From a PR standpoint, the offer is a Win. Octafish Apr 2015 #40
I presume that judo-like technique would require some heavy duty Trillo Apr 2015 #41
"rather than enriching advertising agencies et al, she went to various communities--cities and towns panader0 Apr 2015 #43
Good question. H2O Man Apr 2015 #63
Your son is thinking along similar lines to what I have been thinking, although I think he has come sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #46
Brilliant. MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #52
Thanks. H2O Man Apr 2015 #60
BTW, I've always thought that boxers are the smartest athletes MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #62
I agree. H2O Man Apr 2015 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #61
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