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MANative

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2. And as a former corporate Learning and Development executive, I can tell you...
Sat May 5, 2012, 07:00 PM
May 2012

...without a single doubt that you have hit the nail on the head. About a dozen years ago, coinciding with the rise of the Bush/Neocon/Insane Repub era, corporate training programs started to go the way of the dinosaur. All developmental work was slashed in favor of basic computer training and functional (job specific) skills training.

What the vast majority of corporate "leaders" don't understand is that "management" skill is not taught in MBA programs, certainly not to the extent that is required to manage a workgroup or improve one's leadership ability. MBAs teach about "business" skill - very, very different from "management" skill. The way people have learned the nuances of these skills is through developmental opportunities and guided learning. They are not inherent skill for most people. Sadly, most supervisors simply emulate the management style of their own boss, and the less specific knowledge that they gain along the way, the more likely they will not recognize the mistakes, thus being doomed to repeat them, and in the absence of new learning for themselves and their own subordinates, thus perpetuating the problem.

I headed the executive development team for a very large, multi-billion dollar, international retailer in Manhattan. With over twenty years of experience, having completely reinvented the company's approach to performance management (which they are still using seven years after my departure), and having been recognized as one of the country's foremost experts in adult behavioral development, they asked me to train computer classes in Microsoft Word and Excel rather than work with executives to develop their next group of leaders. Unbelievable.

ETA: The OP is actually not wrong that there is a skills mismatch, but it's been created by the employers and corporations, not by the workers. I've rarely found an employee who was not eager to participate in development programs. They are, however, rarely available now, either inside or outside a corporate environment. We have not, and will not, unless things change dramatically, developed our bench strength for the next level of managers. Corporations will discover the hard way what a huge, short-sighted mistake this has been.

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as a headhunter I can tell you in all certainty that many/most companies are elehhhhna May 2012 #1
And as a former corporate Learning and Development executive, I can tell you... MANative May 2012 #2
Wow - and a Red Sox fan too! WinniSkipper May 2012 #4
Hiring the right person is as much science as art... MANative May 2012 #6
Spot on WinniSkipper May 2012 #9
You get no argument from me! MANative May 2012 #11
I blame the 'MBA class' in general and Reagan\Bush in particular for the coalition_unwilling May 2012 #12
when hr stopped reporting to the ceo's and was put under the cfo's elehhhhna May 2012 #7
Exactly... MANative May 2012 #10
When Personnel was renamed Human Resources hootinholler May 2012 #22
Bingo!! MNBrewer May 2012 #23
At UC Berkeley the Human Resources Management Services name recently changed to lunatica May 2012 #24
So now it's moving from a resource implying we are consumed hootinholler May 2012 #25
Yeah, that we're basically money to them lunatica May 2012 #26
Agree. MichiganVote May 2012 #5
Furthermore.... musical_soul May 2012 #20
We just have to fall back on our pioneer lore and wisdom kenny blankenship May 2012 #3
This may be a stupid question, but where is that photo from? coalition_unwilling May 2012 #14
From the film, "The Road" based on the Cormac McCarthy book FSogol May 2012 #17
Ah, I've neither seen the movie nor read the book (yet). Saw the coalition_unwilling May 2012 #18
I read it, but never saw the film. Too depressing. n/t FSogol May 2012 #19
Let's face it.... RagAss May 2012 #8
It's a skill mismatch between representative government and the corporate shills hired to do it. nt lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #13
A skills mismatch is a large part of the problem. bluestate10 May 2012 #15
I have a friend who is a truly talented machinist.. Fumesucker May 2012 #16
Ah hah, is that why we have unemployed engineers begging President Obama for help? Zalatix May 2012 #21
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