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eek MD

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30. If people are living in poverty and squalor.....

Sat May 5, 2012, 07:27 PM

May 2012

Giving them more land isn't going to do a whole lot of good at bringing them any reasonable amount of prosperity and hope, unless said land is chock full of exploitable natural resources and they get to keep all profits. (.....And you know that if our government did a major land giveaway, the land would be worthless land that nobody else wants... the good stuff is reserved for the 1% and corporations). People need resources to help get out of cycles of poverty, such as education and financial resources. If we truly want to help, that is where our efforts should be focused. Every individual we can help is one step closer to helping the group as a whole.

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US should return stolen land to Indian tribes, says United Nations [View all] MichaelMcGuire May 2012 OP

Land by itself doesn't do much. What determines economic gain is what you do with the land. dkf May 2012 #1

Well ........ yeah. polly7 May 2012 #2

But he has to do something to get that economic gain. dkf May 2012 #6

I've farmed and raised animals ...... it's not all that difficult, and of course Native polly7 May 2012 #9

So their current financial difficulties aren't due to lack of knowledge or education and are dkf May 2012 #15

Owning land equals the opportunity to profit from it in any way they choose. polly7 May 2012 #33

But it was ever said its was the 'cure all' MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #10

Maybe you should read the article RC May 2012 #19

"Edited to add: I can't believe the callus racism of some posters here." MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #26

Yeah, especially since that poster usually gives full-throated support of private property. Starry Messenger May 2012 #28

How do you know what this man has done or hasn't done stranger81 May 2012 #20

If I were the UN I would not expect a response malaise May 2012 #3

More the pity (nt) MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #11

Indeed malaise May 2012 #24

And the wingers already think the UN is a plot against them.... Scuba May 2012 #4

Which is crazy since it was President Wilson who laid the groundwork for the UN...an American Pres! vaberella May 2012 #7

Exactly customerserviceguy May 2012 #17

And what about Mexico, UN? You seriously think that Mexico would waste it's time with Texas now? vaberella May 2012 #5

For that matter Mexico has treated its natives horribly 4th law of robotics May 2012 #29

I think we should either leave their land left on green only May 2012 #8

Beat me too it. Richard D May 2012 #14

You got the amount wrong. Anyone who knows American history RebelOne May 2012 #25

The Cobell vs Salazar settlement ended all American Indian claims against the US Federal Government PufPuf23 May 2012 #12

Give back what was stolen by force? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Zalatix May 2012 #13

Expected response: Jester Messiah May 2012 #16

k&r n/t RainDog May 2012 #18

Then Indian tribes should return stolen land to whoever... Amonester May 2012 #21

It is obviously impossible to return North America to its pre 1492 condition mysuzuki2 May 2012 #22

Relatives of the australian aborigine 4th law of robotics May 2012 #23

wtf? cali May 2012 #27

Although I think all Native tribes should have a lot better living conditions Amonester May 2012 #34

The US made treaties with the Indians and broke them think May 2012 #32

And why would the Native Americans have taken the land from? Zalatix May 2012 #35

If people are living in poverty and squalor..... eek MD May 2012 #30

Bump MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #31

+1 thanks. Mc Mike May 2012 #36

If the Seminoles were returned their land lost in era of the Trail of Tears ... lpbk2713 May 2012 #37

Du rec. Nt xchrom May 2012 #38

kickety! countryjake May 2012 #39

Pictures it makes it harder for the apologista. (nt) MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #40

We grew up really close to a reservation. YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #41

This is always a silly suggestion... MellowDem May 2012 #42

Professor Anaya disagrees with you. MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #43

James Anaya, UN Special Rapporteur on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples visits NCAI MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #44