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Hillary Rollout Flips The Bird To Unions - More Of The Same Can Be expected For Rich Vs. Rest [View all] WillTwain Apr 2015 OP

How long do you want the video to be? treestar Apr 2015 #1

She could have shortened the video and still put an AFL-CIO T-shirt on somebody. WillTwain Apr 2015 #3

I disagree. Unless the AFL-CIO officially supports her, she should not use them in her advertisingnt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #58

IS she sure that every ither group represented will support her? Unions will, they always do. WillTwain Apr 2015 #65

AFL-CIO may endorse another Democrat. An endorsement isn't guaranteed. nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #70

They are reluctant and this will not help. WillTwain Apr 2015 #75

This Union Member RobinA Apr 2015 #239

This is what Hillary needs to hear. WillTwain Apr 2015 #241

If Hillary supports the TPP the AFL-CIO should with hold support. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #99

They are not a guarantee for the first time in history. Obama screwed them over too much. WillTwain Apr 2015 #113

Fine. Have the shirt say "UNION" not AFL CIO. merrily Apr 2015 #178

How about a scene from Wisconsin. There is a group that needs help from Hillary. WillTwain Apr 2015 #185

Sure. a Wisconsin shirt. As I said, I'm flexible. merrily Apr 2015 #188

Hillary and the world at large need us. WillTwain Apr 2015 #193

I wanted to see someone wearing a grateful dead t-shirt, or a tie-dye. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #84

Woody Guthrie not the Dead. WillTwain Apr 2015 #88

I like Woody, yes sir Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #92

Is Jerry a union man? WillTwain Apr 2015 #114

Jerry was more of a music man. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #115

Woody was more of a man man. Jerry is cooler, though. WillTwain Apr 2015 #117

Also, she could have had someone on camera wearing T-shirts for: OldRedneck Apr 2015 #102

It is inexcusable to omit the most important group of the last eighty years. Inexcusable. WillTwain Apr 2015 #107

Yup...Before they started tapping Wall St, Unions funded their campaigns. whathehell Apr 2015 #149

Damn it, yes...the missing 'owl lobby' was very telling. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #170

Could these responses to the OP be anymore beside the point? merrily Apr 2015 #182

Is it any wonder why Rome is burning. WillTwain Apr 2015 #212

Again? merrily Apr 2015 #213

What an odd response to question on a Democratic Forum, about Unions. Please stop trying to silence sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #140

It was about the video treestar Apr 2015 #148

Unions are a huge issue for Democrats, though from what I am seeing wrt to Unions, they have issued sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #151

The Clinton's are not saying, "Oh Shit, we forgot Union." This is planned. WillTwain Apr 2015 #220

I think you are right. Can't be FOR the TPP AND Unions at the same time. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #234

This is so obvious. I fear of a trojan horse. I want her to make a fool of me. WillTwain Apr 2015 #236

+1 cui bono Apr 2015 #257

Length of video? That's your answer? merrily Apr 2015 #177

Isn't that hilarious. WillTwain Apr 2015 #183

I might have chosen another word, but, sure, I'll go with hilarious. merrily Apr 2015 #184

I have learned to contain myself. WillTwain Apr 2015 #186

You must be an expert contortionist. merrily Apr 2015 #215

600 straight posts without a hide. I am proud. I welcome their hatred. WillTwain Apr 2015 #221

Don't tempt fate. merrily Apr 2015 #222

601 and counting. WillTwain Apr 2015 #224

601 was way too easy, though. I don't alert much. merrily Apr 2015 #226

ROFLMGAO! William769 Apr 2015 #2

Crying MAO in eight years WillTwain Apr 2015 #4

yup JI7 Apr 2015 #7

This in incredible. WillTwain Apr 2015 #8

Since you brought up Walmart, do you have any idea what she did while on the board? Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #5

Tell me. WillTwain Apr 2015 #6

Since you brought it up in a negative way I was thinking Hillary pushing Buy America Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #10

Was this the ad campaign? tazkcmo Apr 2015 #31

Are you familiar with Walmart practices during the time she was on the board? Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #49

Yes. tazkcmo Apr 2015 #79

I'm more interested in what *Wal-Mart* did while she was on it's board, than what Marr Apr 2015 #12

Did she try a military coup to overthrow the company? News to me. WillTwain Apr 2015 #16

Do you remember the Walmart ads "Buy America"? Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #50

They've come a long way baby since the 70s and Sam Walton, haven't they. WillTwain Apr 2015 #55

Maybe cogitive dissonance has some confused to the facts, huh. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #81

I'd love to see a fucking fact. There's a shortage. merrily Apr 2015 #192

They cherry pick and ignore the very facts they claim are missing. WillTwain Apr 2015 #196

I do. Then the father Sam died, the kids took over, and now look! PrefersaPension Apr 2015 #80

Right on. LeFleur1 Apr 2015 #97

Hill will fix it. WillTwain Apr 2015 #101

When did Sam die? When did the kids take over? Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #163

They have put out they are supposed to be on a campaign to buy Made in USA again in 2013. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #181

Since you brought them up, when did Walmart stop running those ads? Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #162

Hillary was appointed to the board in 1986 and served six years. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #179

Possible, maybe she was trying to unionize and gave up. WillTwain Apr 2015 #187

Is this how unions are started in companies? Didn't know board of directors organized the Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #191

Just for thought, she quit when Bill started campaigning. Like Jeb quit bad companies last year. WillTwain Apr 2015 #197

Pure speculation of what would have happened. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #198

True, yet interesting timing. WillTwain Apr 2015 #201

It's over, I am out of here. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #204

Have a good one. I like Hillary, but she needs to fix this.. WillTwain Apr 2015 #210

She advocated for Buy America and pushed for promotions for women, two things impotant to me. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #195

We are talking Walmart. And how did the buy America thing go for her? WillTwain Apr 2015 #200

Get over it, she was on the board, she pushed for Buy America and promotion of women, Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #202

I am not sure if you are implying I do not care about your issues, which is an insult. WillTwain Apr 2015 #208

WTF? Walmart was the poster child for a lousy employer. She gave that the imprimatur of merrily Apr 2015 #189

Every Democratic Presidential nominee has waived the middle class banner and yet the liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #9

Bill, Barack and Hillary - Three Strikes Wea Are Out WillTwain Apr 2015 #13

Why so negative so soon? babylonsister Apr 2015 #21

My radar is on about union support. WillTwain Apr 2015 #116

three successful progressive democrats arely staircase Apr 2015 #23

and none of them have helped the middle class and no they were not progressive. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #32

both Clintons and Obama are true champions of the middle class arely staircase Apr 2015 #66

Where are you getting that, their web sites? WillTwain Apr 2015 #69

I am a democrat and I support Democrats arely staircase Apr 2015 #259

I am a Democratic Socialist. WillTwain Apr 2015 #265

cool arely staircase Apr 2015 #266

Absolutely, and maybe the presidency - Bernie has my vote, if he runs. WillTwain Apr 2015 #267

Obama and the Clintons champions of the middle class. Thanks for the laugh. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #89

LOL - yeah, right. closeupready Apr 2015 #145

LMFAO ...champions of banksters and Wall Street. L0oniX Apr 2015 #227

haters gonna hate arely staircase Apr 2015 #258

Greed is going to win. Enjoy. L0oniX Apr 2015 #260

Champions, Champions yes Champions of the middle-class. WillTwain Apr 2015 #261

The 1% are laughing at us all. This is all just entertainment for them. L0oniX Apr 2015 #262

They must love it. Progressive ideas cannot even make it out of the progressive party. WillTwain Apr 2015 #263

You were close. Three successive kickers of unions ass. WillTwain Apr 2015 #118

Banksters and Wall Street ARE the new middle class. The old one is gone. L0oniX Apr 2015 #219

If we can ignore the rich, we are all equally poor - that is democracy. WillTwain Apr 2015 #223

Hillary is banking on winning without us. RealityAdvocate Apr 2015 #11

This was my biggest fear and it appears to be validated. WillTwain Apr 2015 #14

Even if she tries to win labor, who amongst us will believe she is sincere? RealityAdvocate Apr 2015 #15

Ya, but she is not even faking it. WillTwain Apr 2015 #17

TPP and Wall Street. Yay. RealityAdvocate Apr 2015 #20

Is there any political reason for this dissing of unions? Do they have a plan that includes WillTwain Apr 2015 #24

She's going to try to let us fade away into antiquity. RealityAdvocate Apr 2015 #26

The unions are becoming increasingly powerless & irrelevant. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #91

That looks like her calculation. WillTwain Apr 2015 #98

If she didn't even have a union shirt on anybody, that sure leaves a bad taste Nay Apr 2015 #205

This was deliberate. She featured every group important to her except labor. Pretty straight forward WillTwain Apr 2015 #209

A mild edit-- Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #268

you have a mouse in your pocket? nt arely staircase Apr 2015 #25

What flavor? RealityAdvocate Apr 2015 #27

And she will, validating the turd way strategy Doctor_J Apr 2015 #123

It rots teeth and healthcare is too expensive. WillTwain Apr 2015 #126

lol - nice play on words there. CrispyQ Apr 2015 #230

They dismiss the left, Republicans capitulate to the right. WillTwain Apr 2015 #232

Not at all! Maedhros Apr 2015 #254

When will she get labor's endorsement? WillTwain Apr 2015 #264

That must be why Randi Weingarten praised Hillary's video on FB. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #18

I hope she knows something the video did not indicate. WillTwain Apr 2015 #19

Well being President of one of the largest unions in the U.S. probably helps. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #22

I agree, but it is hard to understand the omission of unions. It does not look right. WillTwain Apr 2015 #28

And how have the unions faired over the last few decades? Maybe today's union leaders are not that liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #37

Mine's doing great. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #39

Well, I can tell you our local Boeing union is not, and neither are lots of other unions liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #52

Republican Gov. of SC is suppressing an election for the union for Boeing workers. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #68

Super-Hillary to the rescue. WillTwain Apr 2015 #71

Super Cruz will really help unions. See, I can do strawmen too. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #78

Cruz sucks. WillTwain Apr 2015 #85

"streamlining elections". Is that anything like supporting teachers unions by taking funding away liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #86

Union elections. NLRB. Labor reform. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #156

OMG! Hillary didn't get a face lift before the video.... and she didn't whiten her teeth. justiceischeap Apr 2015 #29

You said it all. "resonates quite heavily with polls right now" WillTwain Apr 2015 #33

You've made me curious... justiceischeap Apr 2015 #43

It does not have to be. Cheap labor coupled with no unions will be the end. WillTwain Apr 2015 #119

I'm not anti-union justiceischeap Apr 2015 #121

Most manufacturing is minimum wage non union. I ran a staffing company, I know. WillTwain Apr 2015 #127

And the one good thing about stereotypes justiceischeap Apr 2015 #130

Another stereotype is Democratic presidents are fighting for the working class. WillTwain Apr 2015 #133

One more thing, WillTwain Apr 2015 #124

We can go back and forth on this all night, I'm sure justiceischeap Apr 2015 #128

I can appreciate your thoughts, but like I said most union jobs have little to do with foreign labor WillTwain Apr 2015 #132

Maybe she can borrow the anti-union tape Safeway uses... PrefersaPension Apr 2015 #146

This proud union member (AFT) backs Hillary arely staircase Apr 2015 #30

Proudly? leveymg Apr 2015 #35

Good Luck. WillTwain Apr 2015 #36

Prison Guard Union or Police Union? nt U4ikLefty Apr 2015 #42

I wish I said that. WillTwain Apr 2015 #48

so you could have looked foolish too? nt arely staircase Apr 2015 #56

it was so politically astute. I love that depth of understanding of the games played. Fun stuff. WillTwain Apr 2015 #67

AFT (AFL-CIO) arely staircase Apr 2015 #53

“I stand behind the charter school/public school movement, because parents do deserve greater choice U4ikLefty Apr 2015 #94

This. Makes. Me. Sick. Who the hell could actually support the fraud that is the for-profit Nay Apr 2015 #207

Insanity has swept the land. WillTwain Apr 2015 #211

...that and a lot of corporate shills infesting the blogosphere. L0oniX Apr 2015 #218

Keep being a voice of reason. WillTwain Apr 2015 #225

You can't reason with blind obedience. L0oniX Apr 2015 #229

+1 L0oniX Apr 2015 #217

as long as you got yours right? Who cares if other unions are being destroyed right? liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #59

that makes no sense arely staircase Apr 2015 #64

Starting in 2016 Seattle Boeing Union's pension is frozen. What did they get out of their liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #74

Hillary will fix it. WillTwain Apr 2015 #76

Stop. I can't take it anymore. It's too funny. merrily Apr 2015 #194

Most labor will, and not because they think that Democrats will rubber stamp everything labor wants still_one Apr 2015 #153

I didn't like her pantsuit. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #34

She needs the extra pockets for carrying a second phone. n/t leveymg Apr 2015 #38

Me too!!! ronnykmarshall Apr 2015 #41

DU is no place for sexism. WillTwain Apr 2015 #44

Nor is it a place for ignorance of sarcasm and lack of appreciation for a good 90's meme. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #46

I was being sarcastic in a place that has no place for ignorance of sarcasm. WillTwain Apr 2015 #51

Sure you were. I Believe that. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #61

You Better. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #106

+1 one_voice Apr 2015 #144

What makes you the know-all mind-reader? Unbelievable. WillTwain Apr 2015 #108

No change since 2008 ronnykmarshall Apr 2015 #40

Just ignore it. I still remember when a high Kerry... TreasonousBastard Apr 2015 #54

Fueled by high-octane hyperbole too! emulatorloo Apr 2015 #60

Isn't that the truth still_one Apr 2015 #155

Yup. Same as it ever was... SidDithers Apr 2015 #160

Hillary instead of Barack, more of the same Union neglect. WillTwain Apr 2015 #169

Nice to see you around, RKM! I was wondering the Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #172

Also absent were the working class poor. I saw mostly middle class people Dragonfli Apr 2015 #45

No, but plenty of future poor people. WillTwain Apr 2015 #63

Well, it looks like they will have to fix up some of the condemned buidings Dragonfli Apr 2015 #72

There are plenty of empty deserts owned by the government, too. Freedom, Liberty. WillTwain Apr 2015 #83

+1 leftstreet Apr 2015 #141

see no evil, hear no evil PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #159

I think you are reading too much into a fluffy video. jillan Apr 2015 #47

This. Exactly this. nt Skidmore Apr 2015 #77

It's very early in the process JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #57

You have a smart approach. WillTwain Apr 2015 #87

Walmart is the world's largest company, owned by the world's richest family. Octafish Apr 2015 #62

Two chickens, imported from China, in every pot. WillTwain Apr 2015 #90

Why would she abandon unions when she has always been pro-union OKNancy Apr 2015 #73

As i have pointed out. The crisis is the wealth gap, without big increases in union membership WillTwain Apr 2015 #96

Yep, unions got her elected for the NY senate. joshcryer Apr 2015 #154

They need unions. Obama used them then stiffed them, so cynical. WillTwain Apr 2015 #203

Are you talking about the video? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #82

You think HRC won't be supportive of labor, then vote for someone else. I would like to remind you still_one Apr 2015 #93

You are right. Voting for Obama really panned out, too. Sarcasm. WillTwain Apr 2015 #104

If you don't think voting for President Obama "panned out" then Cha Apr 2015 #125

Just for your information. WillTwain Apr 2015 #129

unions are having the issues they are have because they voted for Reagan. Yes, there is adifference still_one Apr 2015 #152

Unions hate Obama for good reasons. Do you know more than they do about Obama's WillTwain Apr 2015 #171

You just fucked up. We have a Congress controlled by Republicans, yet when you said . . . Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #164

A biscuit to a starving dog. They hate him. He did less with more than any president in history for WillTwain Apr 2015 #173

Nevertheless, this is what we are up against. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #165

Don't I know it and have known it for 7 years, Major. I got the machine to crank it out.. Cha Apr 2015 #166

Ha ha ha!!!! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #167

Why do you laugh at poverty? WillTwain Apr 2015 #175

Popcorn machine made in China by 60 cents an hour non-Union workers. WillTwain Apr 2015 #174

Yeah right. That is why unions are in such good shape. Brilliant view still_one Apr 2015 #150

Jesus Christ....it's her first ad! Give the Hillary hate a rest. beaglelover Apr 2015 #95

No kidding workinclasszero Apr 2015 #103

Hillary did not do herself a favor with this slight of unions. WillTwain Apr 2015 #112

Criticism does not equal hate nt LiberalElite Apr 2015 #105

The attack dogs are out. You cannot reason with some people. WillTwain Apr 2015 #111

Irony can be so ironic sometimes mythology Apr 2015 #147

Jesus Christ....give the blind faith a rest. Its like a restaurant forgetting to put hamburger in WillTwain Apr 2015 #109

Give the middle class hate a rest too. L0oniX Apr 2015 #214

So, if Bernie Sanders doesn't SPECIFICALLY call out Unions in his first ad, you'll dump him? brooklynite Apr 2015 #100

Absolutely WillTwain Apr 2015 #110

No because he has earned some trust. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #134

I cannot imagine him not mentioning unions. WillTwain Apr 2015 #139

K&R Scuba Apr 2015 #120

she doesn't make any bones about being a wall street water carrier. she will run Doctor_J Apr 2015 #122

This is apparent to some, but not enough. Ditching unions is the canary in the coal mine. WillTwain Apr 2015 #131

God knows I don't want her. 840high Apr 2015 #135

k&r. PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #136

I understand where you're coming from. lovemydog Apr 2015 #137

I want to like Hillary, she is so talented and qualified. WillTwain Apr 2015 #138

DURec leftstreet Apr 2015 #142

no surprise awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #143

GM is still here because of Obama. The republicans wanted them to go through a formal still_one Apr 2015 #157

K&R marym625 Apr 2015 #158

The Traitors that sold out US Manufacturing nationalize the fed Apr 2015 #161

As a straight white male, that video offended me. onehandle Apr 2015 #168

As a gut who understands pandering it offended me. WillTwain Apr 2015 #180

We live in an oligarchy. mn9driver Apr 2015 #176

Maybe a queen this time at the top WillTwain Apr 2015 #190

No. It does nothing of the sort. MineralMan Apr 2015 #199

Of what sort? PrefersaPension Apr 2015 #231

Of the flipping the bird sort. MineralMan Apr 2015 #235

You chime in on my posts all the time. Call it what you want, it is an absolute snub of unions. WillTwain Apr 2015 #237

Yes, I posted in your public thread, but the post MineralMan Apr 2015 #238

I welcome your posts. Simply do not pretend you are unaware of me. You have demeaned me WillTwain Apr 2015 #240

Look at the thread's post list. You're in a subthread. MineralMan Apr 2015 #242

My error. Though you have been dismissive of me. My replies to you still hold up. WillTwain Apr 2015 #243

I simply disagree with you on some points. MineralMan Apr 2015 #244

No, You have told me I am not worthy of voicing my opinion. I love that we disagree. WillTwain Apr 2015 #245

Oh, bother... MineralMan Apr 2015 #246

Excellent, Check your posts, too. WillTwain Apr 2015 #247

There was definitely a guy working in a factory Bettie Apr 2015 #206

Not when most workers are non Union and work in poverty. Nobody thought Union man WillTwain Apr 2015 #216

Sorry, my first thought was Union Guy Bettie Apr 2015 #249

I hope you read the thread, my positions are clearly stated. WillTwain Apr 2015 #252

This OP only makes sense in bizarro world. All the Union forums I've checked loved the video. stevenleser Apr 2015 #228

Why are they not endorsing her, yet? If they are so enamored with her. WillTwain Apr 2015 #233

Are you in a hurry? brooklynite Apr 2015 #255

I do not thinks so. WillTwain Apr 2015 #256

All the union people I know are "Ready for Hillary" DemocraticWing Apr 2015 #248

"I also don't think endorsing equality for America's oppressed peoples is a minor deal." WillTwain Apr 2015 #250

She mooned the military, too, by not having a single soldier or battleship in the ad. OFFS. Hekate Apr 2015 #251

OK WillTwain Apr 2015 #253

She also flipped off first responders...I didn't see any in the ad DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #269

Got me. I was ready fire. WillTwain Apr 2015 #270

kick woo me with science Apr 2015 #271

I don't see this as her flipping the bird to unions Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #272

Must be cause she's a Leninist BainsBane Apr 2015 #273