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ellisonz

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30. I'm no luddite either.

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 03:14 AM

Apr 2015

I'm about a month away from a Masters of Public Administration with a focus on sustainability policy and planning.

It is never wise to speak brashly in a discussion before genuinely listening to all sides of debate.

In living through this "great epoch," it is difficult to reconcile oneself to the fact that one belongs to that mad, degenerate species that boasts of its free will. How I wish that somewhere there existed an island for those who are wise and of good will! In such a place even I should be an ardent patriot!

Letter to Paul Ehrenfest, early December 1914. Collected Papers of Albert Einstein, Vol 8, Doc. 39. Quoted in The New Quotable Einstein by Alice Calaprice (2005), p. 3

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Hundreds form chain at University of Hawaii to protest Thirty Meter Telescope [View all] ellisonz Apr 2015 OP

Science takes another backseat to Superstition. How sad. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #1

No, a people's sovereignty and rights just took precedence for once. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #46

If you say so. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #49

Superstitious rubes blocking progress... SidDithers Apr 2015 #2

Number 13 got someone upset? hobbit709 Apr 2015 #3

Number 13? ellisonz Apr 2015 #6

There's 12 telescopes up there now in case you hadn't noticed. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #7

My bad. ellisonz Apr 2015 #8

k&r! nt bananas Apr 2015 #4

Promote ignorance! Sign the petition. longship Apr 2015 #5

Moratorium Extended! ellisonz Apr 2015 #9

Oh, this Dark Ages bullshit is still going on? NuclearDem Apr 2015 #10

so preserving native cultures is dark ages bullshit is it? liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #11

Pretty much the definition of it Egnever Apr 2015 #17

It's a telescope, not a pipeline. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #19

White privilige and hegemony BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #20

OFFS. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #21

I love science too. I am going to school for molecular biology. Science is supposed to help liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #22

I'm no luddite either. ellisonz Apr 2015 #30

+1 ellisonz Apr 2015 #29

What. Utter. Horseshit. Rosco T. Apr 2015 #39

No - it's to show analogies about what was once pushed as "science" BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #40

Alright, so for those keeping score at home... NuclearDem Apr 2015 #41

And your comparisons of this situation to pipelines BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #42

... NuclearDem Apr 2015 #44

You continue to force your perspective BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #45

.... NuclearDem Apr 2015 #48

Sometimes BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #50

If you want to stick with astronomy, what about all the debris in orbit right now? Rosco T. Apr 2015 #51

You apparently completely missed the point of the analogy. nt BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #54

You're missing the point. ellisonz Apr 2015 #53

How does the telescope infringe upon it in any way? Oktober Apr 2015 #24

'superstitious rubes' bigtree Apr 2015 #52

nice picture ellisonz. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #12

K&R closeupready Apr 2015 #13

I support the building of the telescope. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #14

Thanks for keeping us apprised, Ellison. Building that shrine brought tears to my eyes.... Hekate Apr 2015 #15

You are very welcome. ellisonz Apr 2015 #31

Kaulana Na Pua by the Kulaeana Project tells those with ears to hear a lot about Hawaiian struggles Hekate Apr 2015 #16

It is no small miracle that Hawaiian culture is once again thriving in Hawai'i. ellisonz Apr 2015 #32

teaching the language to keikis was perhaps the biggest sign of rebirth ever Hekate Apr 2015 #33

Absolutely ellisonz Apr 2015 #35

Just think of all the humans it will displace seveneyes Apr 2015 #18

Ridiculous... RealityAdvocate Apr 2015 #23

Hey, all you DUers who think the native Hawai'ians do Dark Ages Bullshit... Hekate Apr 2015 #25

Nope. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #26

What NuclearDem said. Nobody lives up there except a made-up ridiculous Shrimp-God or... BlueJazz Apr 2015 #28

This. TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #43

It's their land, their LANDSCAPE. They see it as worth preserving. That you dismiss this so easily KittyWampus Apr 2015 #47

Science is for all jberryhill Apr 2015 #27

You are trying really hard to make it about race... Oktober Apr 2015 #37

Mauna Kea Protectors Parade at Merrie Monarch ellisonz Apr 2015 #34

+10000 Hekate Apr 2015 #36

How can Luddites use the internet to organize? Rosco T. Apr 2015 #38

Ya! Superstition wins again! Adrahil Apr 2015 #55