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NuclearDem

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41. Alright, so for those keeping score at home...

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:25 AM

Apr 2015

we've had a telescope compared to the most destructive weapons known to mankind and the deliberate injection of black men with syphilis.

I'm still waiting to hear how a telescope--not an oil pipeline, not a refinery, not a clear-cutting operation, not a shopping mail, a telescope--is going to wipe out Hawaiian culture. All I'm hearing so far is a bunch of Luddite, primitivist bullshit that would be laughed out of here if it were espoused by rightwing Christians.

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Hundreds form chain at University of Hawaii to protest Thirty Meter Telescope [View all] ellisonz Apr 2015 OP

Science takes another backseat to Superstition. How sad. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #1

No, a people's sovereignty and rights just took precedence for once. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #46

If you say so. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #49

Superstitious rubes blocking progress... SidDithers Apr 2015 #2

Number 13 got someone upset? hobbit709 Apr 2015 #3

Number 13? ellisonz Apr 2015 #6

There's 12 telescopes up there now in case you hadn't noticed. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #7

My bad. ellisonz Apr 2015 #8

k&r! nt bananas Apr 2015 #4

Promote ignorance! Sign the petition. longship Apr 2015 #5

Moratorium Extended! ellisonz Apr 2015 #9

Oh, this Dark Ages bullshit is still going on? NuclearDem Apr 2015 #10

so preserving native cultures is dark ages bullshit is it? liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #11

Pretty much the definition of it Egnever Apr 2015 #17

It's a telescope, not a pipeline. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #19

White privilige and hegemony BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #20

OFFS. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #21

I love science too. I am going to school for molecular biology. Science is supposed to help liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #22

I'm no luddite either. ellisonz Apr 2015 #30

+1 ellisonz Apr 2015 #29

What. Utter. Horseshit. Rosco T. Apr 2015 #39

No - it's to show analogies about what was once pushed as "science" BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #40

Alright, so for those keeping score at home... NuclearDem Apr 2015 #41

And your comparisons of this situation to pipelines BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #42

... NuclearDem Apr 2015 #44

You continue to force your perspective BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #45

.... NuclearDem Apr 2015 #48

Sometimes BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #50

If you want to stick with astronomy, what about all the debris in orbit right now? Rosco T. Apr 2015 #51

You apparently completely missed the point of the analogy. nt BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #54

You're missing the point. ellisonz Apr 2015 #53

How does the telescope infringe upon it in any way? Oktober Apr 2015 #24

'superstitious rubes' bigtree Apr 2015 #52

nice picture ellisonz. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #12

K&R closeupready Apr 2015 #13

I support the building of the telescope. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #14

Thanks for keeping us apprised, Ellison. Building that shrine brought tears to my eyes.... Hekate Apr 2015 #15

You are very welcome. ellisonz Apr 2015 #31

Kaulana Na Pua by the Kulaeana Project tells those with ears to hear a lot about Hawaiian struggles Hekate Apr 2015 #16

It is no small miracle that Hawaiian culture is once again thriving in Hawai'i. ellisonz Apr 2015 #32

teaching the language to keikis was perhaps the biggest sign of rebirth ever Hekate Apr 2015 #33

Absolutely ellisonz Apr 2015 #35

Just think of all the humans it will displace seveneyes Apr 2015 #18

Ridiculous... RealityAdvocate Apr 2015 #23

Hey, all you DUers who think the native Hawai'ians do Dark Ages Bullshit... Hekate Apr 2015 #25

Nope. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #26

What NuclearDem said. Nobody lives up there except a made-up ridiculous Shrimp-God or... BlueJazz Apr 2015 #28

This. TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #43

It's their land, their LANDSCAPE. They see it as worth preserving. That you dismiss this so easily KittyWampus Apr 2015 #47

Science is for all jberryhill Apr 2015 #27

You are trying really hard to make it about race... Oktober Apr 2015 #37

Mauna Kea Protectors Parade at Merrie Monarch ellisonz Apr 2015 #34

+10000 Hekate Apr 2015 #36

How can Luddites use the internet to organize? Rosco T. Apr 2015 #38

Ya! Superstition wins again! Adrahil Apr 2015 #55