Hundreds form chain at University of Hawaii to protest Thirty Meter Telescope

[NuclearDem]

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and refineries, which is YOUR line in the sand for what you assert would be "the" universal belief (by the "enlightened" (in quotes), per your argument) for what should be considered disruptive to society, is ludicrous.

I'm still waiting for an explanation of how this telescope is going to utterly wipe out native Hawaiian culture. What I see is a largely-uninhabited remote building on a very large mountain.

Additionally, invoking "Christians" as a comparison to these natives, who themselves were oppressed by European Christians in their quest to create "Noble Savages", is equally ludicrous... "Christians" (thanks to Saul/Paul), barreled through Europe and the rest of the world with the sword to oppress and dominate, after distorting simple practices that evolved over the millennia by some of the earliest human societies, before that religion was declared to be in existence.

No.

Superstitious bullshit is superstitious bullshit, no matter whose superstition.

And you continue to use denigrating terms such as "primitivist", which ranks right there alongside terms such as "ignorant savages" and similar dismissive descriptions of others to arrogantly assert superiority.

No again.

Primitivist bullshit is based on the idea that everything was just fine and fucking dandy before humans developed the scientific method and industrial civilization, and that any advance beyond ancient farming and eating roots to treat illnesses is an abomination onto the world.

This applies to pharmaceuticals, vaccines, nuclear power, genetic engineering, and really any advancement more recent than the wheel.

When humanity puts some "object" on every open space on the planet until no more space exists ?

Ridiculous.

The TMT is being constructed on Mauna Kea because it's one of the only spots in the Northern Hemisphere with reliably clear weather and minimal light pollution.

Not because "hyuck hyuck let's build shit guys."