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In reply to the discussion: Hundreds form chain at University of Hawaii to protest Thirty Meter Telescope [View all]NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)48. ....
How is what they are protesting impacting you personally and your survival in any way, regardless of how you label it? It seems any perceived "set back" in life if no telescope was built there, or if feedback be permitted by the people native to there, would somehow result in something devastating to your existence. And as such, this somehow justifies the use denigrating terms to express the disagreement.
Because nobody on earth has wanted answers to questions like "how did all of this begin" or "are we alone in the universe."
Imagine that. If you want "clear weather", I have personally (maybe not here on DU) promoted putting a telescope on the far side of the moon or in a geostationary orbit of the sun beyond the moon, and you eliminate the atmospheric distortions.
Maintenance.
It's either a short drive up a mountain or a multimillion dollar mission to the moon or orbit around the sun to repair and maintain the telescope.
As an example, Lake Nyos in Cameron, where local folklore had warned against going near the place,
yet not heeding it in later times, resulted in the deaths of over 1700 because of what was found as a natural phenomena that periodically released CO2 in the atmosphere, and in the lake (literally causing the lake to acidify as well).
yet not heeding it in later times, resulted in the deaths of over 1700 because of what was found as a natural phenomena that periodically released CO2 in the atmosphere, and in the lake (literally causing the lake to acidify as well).
I have no idea why you think this is relevant to Mauna Kea, but thanks for citing an example where local superstition was explained by evil Western knowledge about Vulcanism and tectonics.
Man, you sure showed us "Western science" types.
Fuck it, I'm done. This shit is why this country can't have nice things.
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Hundreds form chain at University of Hawaii to protest Thirty Meter Telescope [View all]
ellisonz
Apr 2015
OP
I love science too. I am going to school for molecular biology. Science is supposed to help
liberal_at_heart
Apr 2015
#22
If you want to stick with astronomy, what about all the debris in orbit right now?
Rosco T.
Apr 2015
#51
Thanks for keeping us apprised, Ellison. Building that shrine brought tears to my eyes....
Hekate
Apr 2015
#15
Kaulana Na Pua by the Kulaeana Project tells those with ears to hear a lot about Hawaiian struggles
Hekate
Apr 2015
#16
It is no small miracle that Hawaiian culture is once again thriving in Hawai'i.
ellisonz
Apr 2015
#32
What NuclearDem said. Nobody lives up there except a made-up ridiculous Shrimp-God or...
BlueJazz
Apr 2015
#28
It's their land, their LANDSCAPE. They see it as worth preserving. That you dismiss this so easily
KittyWampus
Apr 2015
#47