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NM_Birder

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77. aaaaaand cut.

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 01:37 PM

Apr 2015

Now, take a deep breath, this is going to sting, the truth sometimes does............... I'm not racist.....and ......I do not "owe" anything for other peoples racism, I am not responsible for black slavery of the past, I am not responsible for the slavery that exists throughout the world today, I am not responsible for the American Indian being placed on reservations, nor am I to be held responsible for the murder of millions of jews during WW2. , ...... oh and as a fetus, nobody asked me, so it was not my call to allow only a white man to walk on the moon the year I was born.

I am responsible for my actions, ..................not those of the dead from the past.

I am however,.....just a guy,..... living his life without being racist, just like the vast majority of people. I enjoy my life and I don't feel guilty in the slightest for enjoying my life. I worked hard to have what I have, and somewhere I missed out on that "all white people advance to GO" ....line... for the best. Working for what I have has made me appreciate it, and having lived thru the experience of striving for what I have, makes your notion that I got it because I'm white seem spiteful and I'm sorry a little like a joke. I'm waiting for the aaahhhhh gotcha !

As a white guy, am I also personally responsible for the drug problems across the board in America, the terrible Mexican economy, prison over crowding, the homeless problem, prostitution? how about the elimination of Levi's 501's.....is that my fault too ?

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here is a question regarding my "white privilege", [View all] NM_Birder Apr 2015 OP

It's terrible to see such a delicate thing in such pain... ret5hd Apr 2015 #1

swing and a miss, but thats what I thought. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #3

"...what exactly is my debt that I am supposed to pay today..." ret5hd Apr 2015 #21

You advocate a binding agreement, NM_Birder Apr 2015 #70

I've already delivered on my end. ret5hd Apr 2015 #71

You have most certainly not. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #73

I replied to this post before but here you are again with no response. Here's my same answer. brush Apr 2015 #76

aaaaaand cut. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #77

Is there a comprehension problem? brush Apr 2015 #84

with regards to the term NM_Birder Apr 2015 #85

You agree that you are not interested in remedying white privilege? brush Apr 2015 #86

I do not agree that because I'm white, I am somehow "privileged" NM_Birder Apr 2015 #87

Nice to know where you're coming from. brush Apr 2015 #89

Recognize you have it and work to help others through words and actions boston bean Apr 2015 #2

Well, for one, not start stupid threads about "white shaming" Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #4

+1 cleanhippie Apr 2015 #43

To me, it's an awareness of the reality, not a shaming... Cooley Hurd Apr 2015 #5

It's not about guilt. surrealAmerican Apr 2015 #6

I don't want to be heating oil for nothing. merrily Apr 2015 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #64

UM, heating oil in a big pot is the way popcorn was always made by poor people. merrily Apr 2015 #69

"It's limousine Liberals, that can afford microwaves" NM_Birder Apr 2015 #74

It's a remote possibility. merrily Apr 2015 #75

.... gollygee Apr 2015 #8

Yearn to be free of white privilege? That's absurd. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #61

Who says you're supposed to feel guilty? cyberswede Apr 2015 #9

I don't feel guilt about white "orivilege" either. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #12

fixed cyberswede Apr 2015 #13

Wasn't there a thread (within the last 6 months or so) very similar to this one... boston bean Apr 2015 #14

And they are posted, and the OP never returns to respond to anything... ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #59

When you're losing an argument, attack the typos of others... Cooley Hurd Apr 2015 #22

THANK YOU! Christ it took long enough..... NM_Birder Apr 2015 #41

It isn't about guilt and shame. NutmegYankee Apr 2015 #10

how does that work in a practical matter? treestar Apr 2015 #28

Making people aware is the first step. NutmegYankee Apr 2015 #45

It would work better IMO to do more as you did treestar Apr 2015 #47

As a member of a paradoxically privileged and sometimes maligned and persecuted minority... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #11

Just acknowledging it is 80% of what you need to do. PassingFair Apr 2015 #15

Recognize that, because of the circumstances of your birth thucythucy Apr 2015 #16

You're supposed to have dumbcat Apr 2015 #17

guilt is a wasted emotion... handmade34 Apr 2015 #18

oh, ffs. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #19

It's not a matter of guilt, blame or shame. MineralMan Apr 2015 #20

You are "supposed" to show respect and compassion WhiteTara Apr 2015 #23

In this case that is asking way too much. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #26

Don't worry - white privilege threads aren't about you. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2015 #24

A DUer started a thread yesterday to discuss concrete ways to address institutional racism. Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #53

Awareness is the goal. randome Apr 2015 #25

Aw. Iggo Apr 2015 #27

Awww you poor thing... Sheldon Cooper Apr 2015 #29

just knowing you care makes me feel all fuzzy and safe. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #42

We need REPARATIONS! AngryAmish Apr 2015 #30

There are not any 'groups' of people's who are stereotyped by the idiots among them randr Apr 2015 #31

Penance? This is not about religion. This is about political systems Cal Carpenter Apr 2015 #32

oh goody mercuryblues Apr 2015 #33

^this Marrah_G Apr 2015 #36

+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #50

Whole lotta *I* going on in that OP Cirque du So-What Apr 2015 #34

You are not supposed to feel guilty, but you should acknowledge that it is easier to be white Marrah_G Apr 2015 #35

I'd give you 1/2 a rec if that were permitted. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2015 #37

Why do these threads always remind me of this poem? newblewtoo Apr 2015 #38

You could get down off the cross and read to educate yourself. That would be nice. nt LeftyMom Apr 2015 #39

You have so much to learn. Cleita Apr 2015 #40

Well, at least you're asking a question, even if passive-aggressively. Orsino Apr 2015 #44

It's amazing the protections that DU has in place for these people. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #49

Just my opinion, but you AREN'T supposed to feel guilty. What you ARE MH1 Apr 2015 #46

"I don't hold anything against anybody,....... unless they are an asshole." Self loathing, perhaps? Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #48

Check your privilege. Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #51

You're not supposed to feel guilty or pay anything. That's missing the point. n/t arcane1 Apr 2015 #52

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #54

Interesting day at the DUs! Rex Apr 2015 #66

Yep, there is white privilege for most. Do the best you can. That's it. eom Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #55

Just side with the reparations movement . . . brush Apr 2015 #56

No one is asking anyone to give up anything. Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #57

Bullshit. H2O Man Apr 2015 #58

It's pretty easy to ignore if you don't like it. Inkfreak Apr 2015 #60

generalities DustyJoe Apr 2015 #62

There are DUers here who have an agenda upaloopa Apr 2015 #63

Why would you feel guilt!? I just don't get that at all. Seems to me it signals something unnoticed. Rex Apr 2015 #65

Try this ... GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #67

I don't get why you think discussing white privilege is shaming or has anything to do with guilt fishwax Apr 2015 #68

By simple logical extension, ronnie624 Apr 2015 #72

First thing I would say. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #78

You're not. KamaAina Apr 2015 #79

Ignore the snarky assholes romanic Apr 2015 #80

+1 TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #81

I imagine it's much more convenient to call it "white shaming" than it is to LanternWaste Apr 2015 #82

Talk about missing the point about privilege. alarimer Apr 2015 #83

Think of it as 'white responsibility' to end racism then. ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #88