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Eleanors38

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20. u-rine the right territory.

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Paul Krugman nails it: Why we're on DEMOCRATIC Underground [View all] Faygo Kid Apr 2015 OP

Short and sweet! kr OffWithTheirHeads Apr 2015 #1

I Agree But... billhicks76 Apr 2015 #108

good analisys. OffWithTheirHeads Apr 2015 #127

"May the best party win", indeed. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #2

The Parties may indeed differ in their character and rhetoric. Maedhros Apr 2015 #3

The same policies do not march forward. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #4

Ditto! Iliyah Apr 2015 #17

What do you mean 'you could ask everyone who died in Iraq'? Aside from the fact that over one sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #80

It was so obvious he was lying Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #115

They don't think about important issues like that and the Environment.. just knee jerk reaction Cha Apr 2015 #94

Social policy differences are indeed stark, yet fiscal policy differences, not so much. Dustlawyer Apr 2015 #122

Have you seen the Paul Ryan and Rand Paul budgets? geek tragedy Apr 2015 #123

I should have been more specific. You are correct as far as that is concerned. I was thinking how Dustlawyer Apr 2015 #124

That is a troublesome area. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #125

What rot. riqster Apr 2015 #6

Krugman knows this as well as anyone - he has written about it extensively: Maedhros Apr 2015 #8

Really? riqster Apr 2015 #9

As I wrote in my first post, there ARE differences. Maedhros Apr 2015 #12

No, they aren't. riqster Apr 2015 #24

Elective wars? The same. Repressive trade agreements? The same. Maedhros Apr 2015 #39

"Same"? riqster Apr 2015 #51

Yes. There are differences. bvar22 Apr 2015 #55

And LGBT rights have expanded dramatically. riqster Apr 2015 #59

You deserve a freaking medal for even trying with that crowd. Number23 Apr 2015 #117

I had some free time yesterday. riqster Apr 2015 #119

Agree - keep up this argument. There's something going on in the counter-arguments. erronis Apr 2015 #42

Indeed. One wonders why some people here want our candidates to LOSE. riqster Apr 2015 #52

^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^ Tarheel_Dem Apr 2015 #90

Yep! Not much difference at all between McCain & Obama! Just tiny differences. 7962 Apr 2015 #27

Boggles the mind, it does. riqster Apr 2015 #29

Their heads have been notoriously buried in the sand for 7 years now. You'd think they come up for Cha Apr 2015 #96

And the USA's economy is better off during a Democratic Administration is a myth Iliyah Apr 2015 #33

Yep. The absence of perfection is proof of equivalence, to the Pony Platoon. riqster Apr 2015 #36

The RWers say it all the time, it must be true... Blanks Apr 2015 #41

The reason it took off under Clinton is because of gains in the stock market. The wealthy have okaawhatever Apr 2015 #14

No misinformation. Maedhros Apr 2015 #18

No, that is exactly misinformation. You claimed it was because of Presidential policies. It is okaawhatever Apr 2015 #23

You are correct. Its like gas prices 7962 Apr 2015 #30

Absolutely. He did help some with prices though. I don't know if you remember the outrage over Obama okaawhatever Apr 2015 #38

Government policies, not simply Presidential ones. Maedhros Apr 2015 #32

Yes, thank you for posting that. nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #132

Actually THAT is the misinformation.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #37

No. I am correct, and I have a Nobel prize winning economist who backs it up. I didn't say "what's okaawhatever Apr 2015 #40

I'm old enough to remember when they counted how much the working class had in savings. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #43

They still do.. nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #44

Maybe on CNBC as an "employees are overpaid" story. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #48

I'm not referring to anything other than cold numbers and how wealth is calculated by the BLS. okaawhatever Apr 2015 #65

We've been letting the rich define a good economy since Reagan. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #101

Krugman has a Nobel Prize Maedhros Apr 2015 #70

Um, the dot.com bubble started bursting in 2000 Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #126

During Clinton's administration wages rose after falling under Reagan and Bush I, then pampango Apr 2015 #97

I was referring to wealth inequality, not income inequality. Wealth inequality fluctuates more with okaawhatever Apr 2015 #134

Trickle down econ still with us ErikJ Apr 2015 #7

Elect more dems. riqster Apr 2015 #10

yup, but ErikJ Apr 2015 #15

S'truth. riqster Apr 2015 #25

And here I thought that warm stream was due to my ageing. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #11

You must be thinking about tinkle-down economics. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #13

u-rine the right territory. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #20

great heaven05 Apr 2015 #22

It's true that America's business corporations have too much say in running the country and Cal33 Apr 2015 #49

Agreed. Maedhros Apr 2015 #50

I believe things have changed quite a bit in this respect. For example, Democratic politicians Cal33 Apr 2015 #62

Do you have some examples of the 'progressive projects'? Maedhros Apr 2015 #64

I've read similar articles, but can't remember where I read them. This morning something not Cal33 Apr 2015 #137

Bullshit tabasco Apr 2015 #73

Politicians? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #77

Parties. aquart Apr 2015 #113

Hey - at least I presented some evidence for my position, Maedhros Apr 2015 #130

Yep Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #5

Krugman turbinetree Apr 2015 #16

He sure does - no more Naders! MaggieD Apr 2015 #19

Then push for passage of Instant Runoff Voting rules then... cascadiance Apr 2015 #26

That won't solve the problem.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #35

In a democracy, "reality" can be changed for the better... cascadiance Apr 2015 #45

Nader is dead to me, sorry MaggieD Apr 2015 #54

You're blaming the wrong person. bvar22 Apr 2015 #56

No I'm not blaming the wrong person MaggieD Apr 2015 #60

When the two party system has been corrupted by money and special interest influence,... cascadiance Apr 2015 #68

You don't change it by making it easy for the republican to win.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #72

That's why IRV would be the solution to work on... cascadiance Apr 2015 #78

But third parties aren't careful MaggieD Apr 2015 #82

You are insulting Bernie Sanders when you say that. cascadiance Apr 2015 #83

Maybe Bernie isn't an egomaniac -we will see MaggieD Apr 2015 #86

Nader-blaming is the last refuge of the incompetent. [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #76

If you blame Nader instead of wanting something like IRV in place... cascadiance Apr 2015 #81

Or we can just face reality MaggieD Apr 2015 #89

Two different issues... cascadiance Apr 2015 #93

That's hyperbole in the extreme MaggieD Apr 2015 #95

I guess we're more screwed up than Australia... They at least have IRV... cascadiance Apr 2015 #105

Your statement has no rational basis (nt) MaggieD Apr 2015 #87

it's fucking lazy. 200,000+ registered dems CONSCIOUSLY voted for Bush in FL.. frylock Apr 2015 #128

Anyone who really thinks that Nader is responsible for Gore's loss Maedhros Apr 2015 #131

PIcking (or being forced to pick Lieberman) as his running mate... bvar22 Apr 2015 #135

I guess you think we just have to live with Citizen's United and just accept corporate personhood... cascadiance Apr 2015 #66

Yes, that's probably a reality.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #69

So your solution is that the people who disagree with you should agree with you. Marr Apr 2015 #57

I think people should live in reality instead of fantasy land MaggieD Apr 2015 #58

Nader did not hand the White House to Bush. Marr Apr 2015 #63

Nader absolutely did MaggieD Apr 2015 #67

You excuse conservative Dems, but condemn liberals. Marr Apr 2015 #75

I blame Nader and the politically naive MaggieD Apr 2015 #79

"Swing voters" is just a label. Marr Apr 2015 #84

It only seems "odd" to you.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #85

You have a weird Nader fixation. Marr Apr 2015 #88

Never said you voted for him MaggieD Apr 2015 #92

Well, here's the thing, since we're just laying reality on each other. Marr Apr 2015 #100

Oh that's not true MaggieD Apr 2015 #103

Why don't you give us a specific example... cascadiance Apr 2015 #106

I got s million for you... MaggieD Apr 2015 #112

Screaming leftists harm Democrats, but screaming tea-partyers helped JDPriestly Apr 2015 #116

Screaming doesn't get you anywhere with rational people MaggieD Apr 2015 #118

Sometimes corporatist control that SHUTS OUT compromise with "the left" NEEDS screaming at! cascadiance Apr 2015 #120

you can't even deal with reality while you lecture others on it.. frylock Apr 2015 #129

Rand2016 ops have been peddling the 'no difference' meme on Dem sites blm Apr 2015 #21

Yeah,...like every video on YouTube having, "Ron Paul 08!!!" in the comments. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #46

Those "RON PAUL 2008/12" comments drove me nuts. Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #61

It was like "freeping" polls. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #102

Oh, yeah! n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #104

One thing he doesn't mention is the down ticket races. totodeinhere Apr 2015 #28

I already figured the House would launch impeachment hearings on day one. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #47

I'm sure some wanted to, but wiser heads prevailed. 7962 Apr 2015 #53

Republicans are tone deaf to the general public.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #98

Here Here! And points for Faulkner! nolabear Apr 2015 #31

K&R marym625 Apr 2015 #34

Exactly. DCBob Apr 2015 #71

Kick & recommended. William769 Apr 2015 #74

"the differences between the parties are so clear and dramatic that it’s hard to see how anyone who Cha Apr 2015 #91

uh-oh, he's bringing criteria into the mix again MisterP Apr 2015 #99

When we get to the Dem Candidates Debates fadedrose Apr 2015 #107

Wouldn't that be heaven!? Cha Apr 2015 #109

"I work for the 1%. Trust me." blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #110

URL: http://www.avantetech.com/uploads/images/products/voting-election-systems/small-dre1.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #111

The next election will hinge on voter intimidated and election fraud, which is why the DOJ McCamy Taylor Apr 2015 #114

I know the differences between the two parties, but Hotler Apr 2015 #121

but Krugman's point is that there's no Democrats close to Wall Street and big money MisterP Apr 2015 #136

K & R Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #133