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awoke_in_2003

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145. Obama changed his opinion

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 05:23 PM

Apr 2015

while in office, and prior to the 12 elections said he now.supported marriage equality. I applauded him for this. Mrs. Clinton is not my first choice, but I will applaud the inclusion in her video. Better late than never

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I have to say that I am nothing short of amazed that an announcement video [View all] dsc Apr 2015 OP

right there with ya DURHAM D Apr 2015 #1

I live in Philadelphia. Teh gay is nothing special to me. onehandle Apr 2015 #2

I am a middle aged gay man dsc Apr 2015 #8

I hear ya. onehandle Apr 2015 #10

I thought it was great that there were all types of families represented Bettie Apr 2015 #11

As one 1966 baby to another Chellee Apr 2015 #91

My PT 2naSalit Apr 2015 #102

OK...you're probably right Bettie Apr 2015 #112

Everybody has to grow up...but... KatyMan Apr 2015 #118

And aren't you fucking lucky to have had your whole Scruffy Rumbler Apr 2015 #126

I think you're missing the point. onehandle Apr 2015 #132

I think it's amazing... liberalmuse Apr 2015 #3

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ calimary Apr 2015 #18

Right there with you. yardwork Apr 2015 #37

Rubio's announcing tomorrow.. :( Cha Apr 2015 #103

Exactly. I have to wonder... MineralMan Apr 2015 #4

Agree! beaglelover Apr 2015 #5

That isn't why it is being panned. morningfog Apr 2015 #6

It was an introduction video. beaglelover Apr 2015 #7

I disagree. It was an announcement video. morningfog Apr 2015 #9

It really wouldn't matter if she got into specifics LordGlenconner Apr 2015 #16

Well I say families--working families --famlies of all sorts--alone, with kids, older riversedge Apr 2015 #81

Introduction? tazkcmo Apr 2015 #13

None of us have ever met THIS Hillary before. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #82

I agree. We all need to get acquainted with the CURRENT iteration of Hillary Clinton... cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #19

So it had content that made you proud to be a Democrat and yet you claim that is not substantial? Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #21

Images included in her video say little about her morningfog Apr 2015 #28

What was your position? DURHAM D Apr 2015 #42

My position was for marriage equality and an end to all morningfog Apr 2015 #43

For what office were you running? DURHAM D Apr 2015 #44

Which potential Democratic candidate do you predict morningfog Apr 2015 #46

So you can't answer the question DURHAM D Apr 2015 #58

Your question was irrelevant and stupid. morningfog Apr 2015 #61

did you watch the logo debate?in 08 gwheezie Apr 2015 #88

that was the beginning of the end of Richardson for me dsc Apr 2015 #144

Do you think any Dem Candidate will be running on an anti-Gay marriage platform in 2016? sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #86

many Candidates would be more than happy to keep quiet on the subject, rather than make a stand Sheepshank Apr 2015 #135

Are you sure you don't have Hillary and Obama turned around? ieoeja Apr 2015 #121

Absolutely NOT lark Apr 2015 #137

Marriage inequality is not the totality of anti-LGBT discrimination. ieoeja Apr 2015 #140

The video images are an important part of the substance. pnwmom Apr 2015 #29

Yes, difference between dems and pugs, not among dems. morningfog Apr 2015 #48

She's not running for President of the Dems. Everything she does now is to put her pnwmom Apr 2015 #63

Uh, she is running for the Democratic Nomination. morningfog Apr 2015 #66

This ad is to introduce her candidacy for the Presidential election overall. pnwmom Apr 2015 #69

WTF is "lady time?" MADem Apr 2015 #178

Oh god. That was an auto correct. morningfog Apr 2015 #179

It wasn't meant to. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #50

Then the tweet would have sufficed. morningfog Apr 2015 #51

A tweet is only 140 spaces. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #52

I know. morningfog Apr 2015 #53

We will hear her positions soon. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #54

I hope so. It seems she would like to avoid committing to her positions morningfog Apr 2015 #55

She was a private citizen. Now that she is a candidate she is obligated to tell us her views. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #56

You are viewing it with blinders. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #131

So what are her positions on GLBT rights, as set forth in the video? morningfog Apr 2015 #138

We read different stuff. aquart Apr 2015 #162

Some feel elevated enough to dismiss the lives of others for ideology. freshwest Apr 2015 #12

Thank you freshwest. lovemydog Apr 2015 #27

Well said emulatorloo Apr 2015 #87

Awesome! Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #106

She's pandering. Fearless Apr 2015 #14

I'd hate to be so cynical and negative treestar Apr 2015 #17

hear hear. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #146

Bullshit. EVERYONE has "evolved" on this issue. Please, save the negativity. It stinks. RBInMaine Apr 2015 #22

Truth hurts. I don't need to support someone who had to "evolve" to believe I'm equal to them Fearless Apr 2015 #31

So who do you support then? Agschmid Apr 2015 #35

Two seperate points... Fearless Apr 2015 #64

Uh, Warren has "evolved" almost magically. Nice lady. Good Senator. But she's a one-pony libdem4life Apr 2015 #117

Hillary was a Republican Fearless Apr 2015 #123

Uh, a couple of decades does make a difference. Making things up? We're not talking libdem4life Apr 2015 #125

Warren was an adult who tacitly supported ignoring AIDS which was a national health crises.... bettyellen Apr 2015 #157

where did she say that? cite yourself please. Fearless Apr 2015 #160

She was a Reagan Republican for fucks sake! Do the math! bettyellen Apr 2015 #167

Not everyone who voted for Reagan is anti gay Fearless Apr 2015 #169

Everyone who voted for Reagan decided gay lives didn't matter. bettyellen Apr 2015 #170

Not everything is so black and white Fearless Apr 2015 #171

It was a matter of life or countless deaths. Republican voters chose death. bettyellen Apr 2015 #172

The average person did not know Fearless Apr 2015 #173

1980? Try 1986 after almost 20K were dead. Is it "silly" bettyellen Apr 2015 #174

Reagan was not elected in 1986, number one Fearless Apr 2015 #175

He was ignoring it for three years when elected in 84 bettyellen Apr 2015 #180

You understand only from your own points of view Fearless Apr 2015 #181

Perhaps you weren't around. Awareness was high and the "average person" bettyellen Apr 2015 #176

To you fifty million people are evil. That is sad. Fearless Apr 2015 #182

Didn't say that, but they did look the other way as Reagan allowed thousands to die in 84.... bettyellen Apr 2015 #183

So much for being civil. Fearless Apr 2015 #184

Not letting you rewrite history and dismiss AIDs as a silly bettyellen Apr 2015 #185

You have no idea what I said if you think that Fearless Apr 2015 #186

Reagan campaigned against sex- blamed single moms and gays for God's wrath..... bettyellen Apr 2015 #187

Hillary has always liked the gays and believed in equality Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #134

I agree with this DU'r. Raine1967 Apr 2015 #76

So, you didn't support Obama the first time? lark Apr 2015 #141

seems the worst possible way to look at it, especially for you treestar Apr 2015 #154

Yes, because no other politician has ever pandered to the LGBT communuty justiceischeap Apr 2015 #23

I don't accept and won't accept the lesser of two evils argument. Fearless Apr 2015 #32

My marriage rights depend on it just fyi... Agschmid Apr 2015 #36

Your marriage rights will be enshrined, constitutionally this summer. morningfog Apr 2015 #45

True, by try to order a pizza for my gay wedding and see what happens! Agschmid Apr 2015 #57

Try it. You may be surprised. Fearless Apr 2015 #68

They depend on the Supreme Court actually. Fearless Apr 2015 #67

Who when a seat is vacant are appointed by the President. Agschmid Apr 2015 #72

All the more reason to get a real Democrat elected. Fearless Apr 2015 #75

Boom! goes the dynamite! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #84

If we don't elect a Democrat we will be fucked BY the Republican Party. riqster Apr 2015 #116

Well, good for you justiceischeap Apr 2015 #38

That's fine. That's what you're going to do and what you believe. Fearless Apr 2015 #70

Day One in office the GOP prez will reinstate the Global Gag Order & roll back gay rights. Hekate Apr 2015 #39

First act of a teahaddist president workinclasszero Apr 2015 #59

It's not pandering, it's acknowledging people. Raine1967 Apr 2015 #24

Only after it became popular Fearless Apr 2015 #33

That's really a bit disingenuous. Raine1967 Apr 2015 #40

Actually that's EXACTLY what she did. Fearless Apr 2015 #71

she isn't, unless you think she is using women and minorities as tools as well. Raine1967 Apr 2015 #79

If she ran a campaign saying that she should be president because she's a woman then yes Fearless Apr 2015 #83

Then I hope there's more and more of this kind of "pandering." n/t pnwmom Apr 2015 #30

You want more and more people to use us as a political weapon? Fearless Apr 2015 #34

Give me a break. This isn't pandering or using gay families as weapons. pnwmom Apr 2015 #65

Polling shows that LGBT issues are going to win over voters now. Fearless Apr 2015 #73

Where is the polling that shows this will help her in the all-important swing states? pnwmom Apr 2015 #77

Here is the data... Fearless Apr 2015 #80

In the primary, you swing to the left to capture the base XemaSab Apr 2015 #89

Bookmarking...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #99

LOL.. Cha Apr 2015 #104

not a big Clinton fan awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #148

But you'll vote for Warren who was a Republican during the Regan era giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #85

Show me where Warren voiced anti-gay rhetoric. Fearless Apr 2015 #90

The proof is in her voting record & party affiliation giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #93

Again, show me one source that shows she has ever been anti-LGBT Fearless Apr 2015 #94

Guess you nailed it, she voted for Reagan who at giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #96

Hillary voted for Bill who signed DOMA and DADT. Your point? Fearless Apr 2015 #97

No, you said HRC was pandering to the LGBTQ community giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #98

Pretty questionable shit? Fearless Apr 2015 #100

Hillary was a "republican" before she was even eligible giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #107

In the context of the subthread it is a perfectly valid statement Fearless Apr 2015 #108

They close their eyes, fingers in their ears for that.. mustn't bring up the past of another's Cha Apr 2015 #105

They just want to put blinders on for that whole situation.... giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #109

I'm so sorry, giftedgirl.. Cha Apr 2015 #110

My thought exactly XemaSab Apr 2015 #47

Pandering? To a group who will likely vote Dem anyway? Sheepshank Apr 2015 #136

Obama changed his opinion awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #145

+1 treestar Apr 2015 #15

I was amazed� and I really like your post. Raine1967 Apr 2015 #20

Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2015 #25

& even a teeny bit of Hispanic stuff!1 Although back when Bill was "fake"-impeached, & UTUSN Apr 2015 #26

Agree, and it... Mike Nelson Apr 2015 #41

Just showed the video to a solid liberal Christian friend. She was ecstatic. freshwest Apr 2015 #159

It's good that she has evolved on marriage equality. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #49

Don't worry, she will tularetom Apr 2015 #62

just a sec....are you saying that every elected official Sheepshank Apr 2015 #139

Are you saying that no candidate should express their own opinion until they find out tularetom Apr 2015 #142

She will, since it will be in the platform. joshcryer Apr 2015 #78

Amazing how far the US has come on that topic oberliner Apr 2015 #60

Marcus Bachmann doesn't count. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #74

DU rec... SidDithers Apr 2015 #92

I think it's OK that it's nothing special. Renew Deal Apr 2015 #95

k&r... spanone Apr 2015 #101

I think you're right and in fact I overlooked that aspect of it myself. ucrdem Apr 2015 #111

but.. but... but... the red arrow! boston bean Apr 2015 #113

I couldn't because I don't recall anyone announcing with a video marym625 Apr 2015 #114

K & R Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #115

Did anyone notice that the very last frame was a guy who gave a little elbow to the guy libdem4life Apr 2015 #119

yes to the LGBT community? Great. No to Unions? Sucks. cali Apr 2015 #120

When images such as that turn up in Cheerio ads, what's the big deal? hedgehog Apr 2015 #122

Thom Hartmann just mentioned this thread Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2015 #124

You will never hear me say anthing like "it is nothing special." nt. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #127

Far as I can remember from past campaigns, this is a first! B Calm Apr 2015 #128

No shit, that video is a STARK contrast of left and right in 2015 America and people better NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #129

Hillary is making a bold statement. Sheepshank Apr 2015 #130

Psst, over here. William769 Apr 2015 #133

Hillary is an absolutely fantastic candidate on social issues. However, Zorra Apr 2015 #143

I live in Los Angeles. Gay couples are my friends and neighbors. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #147

I am glad for you dsc Apr 2015 #149

What state are you in? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #150

NC dsc Apr 2015 #151

That's sad. They are so behind the rest of the country in the South. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #153

all of the following states have no state wide protection for gays dsc Apr 2015 #155

Add Oklahoma. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #163

To me it indicates Hillary will continue the path Obama started still_one Apr 2015 #152

Hill has always been good on most social issues. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #156

It is amazing when you consider where we were in 2008. greendog Apr 2015 #158

TV: thirtysomething, Will and Grace, Roseanne, Ellen, plenty of folks blazed that trail. IKEA 1994: NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #161

Re-read the post again. Here, I'll provide it FOR you... Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #164

Pandering disgusts me, and that video is nothing but. Jon Stewart nailed it tonight. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #165

Of course, including gays as normal is "pandering." Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #166

Because pandering to straight dudes is not pandering, lol. bettyellen Apr 2015 #168

Not one struggling working-class person or family? Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #177