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avebury

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42. Interesting coments in locsl newspaper website
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 05:33 PM
Apr 2015

http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepage1/updated-district-attorney-steve-kunzweiler-charges-reserve-deputy-with-second/article_883e0747-46e9-595d-9c4f-e1cb4fdabbf4.html

Kunzweiler is one serious D.A. I am so happy to see him as our D.A. We have had a rather lame and at times crooked D.A. for quite some time. Kunzweitler is the real deal. My Tulsa Police Sergeant and Lawyer Son, said that he has been impressed by the actions of Kunzweiler ever time he appeared in court representing the D.A.s office. make no mistake about the difference in the education and training between the Tulsa Police Department and the Tulsa Sheriff's Deputies. It is not the same. The Police are much more highly trained.

Please note that the Oklahoma statute for first degree murder has a 4 year minimal sentence, so what time if any will this guy get, what may be house arrest?
Given the fact that he was already on the ground, in custody, with officers on him when shot, the DOJ will have a hard time NOT SAYING THAT HIS CIVIL RIGHTS WERE VIOLATED.
Let's just see where we go from here!



"Glanz also said he had no plans to change the deputy reserve program"

You are crazy, Mr Glanz . . .I hope the DOJ DOES come into Tulsa because of this. THEN we will have the chance of a competent police force coming out of it.

Stanly is in trouble. He has more than a few people in City Hall that more than dislike him. This is how Stanly acts and he is not going to change. He has never been remorseful for the death of a bad guy and he never will. (Stanley is Glanz)

The video and the statements released to the press raise a reasonable suspicion that the reserve deputy committed felony manslaughter. Unfortunately the LE response to this likely homicide fits the "thin blue line" philosophy in which there are "cops" and "other people". "Other people" are supposed to IMMEDIATELY COMPLY with whatever unbalanced commands or force are imposed on them, and that unsatisfactory policy must be corrected. Yet the system excuses cops for seemingly any mistake, whereas we can all guess what would happen to a private citizen who "accidentally" used a firearm instead of mace or a Taser when lethal force wasn't legally justifiable. If the Tulsa County District Attorney doesn't launch a serious, unbiased, "for real" investigation then you may fairly assume that the private lives of "other people" are expendable in the law enforcement community.

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that is something Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #1
I'm surprised and thankful. bravenak Apr 2015 #2
I worry they'll present the case in tne most perfunctory way possible tishaLA Apr 2015 #47
Step one: Get people to agree shooting black people is bad. Step two: make it illegal NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #77
they will. Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #83
Good, body cams should be mandatory & tamper proof. giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #3
Yep. The camera don't lie. bravenak Apr 2015 #5
here is a picture of the senile asshole and the man he killed snooper2 Apr 2015 #4
Thank you. bravenak Apr 2015 #7
Wow, I honestly didn't expect this! arcane1 Apr 2015 #6
I hope we can review the entire use of force protocol. bravenak Apr 2015 #8
Don't get too excited rjsquirrel Apr 2015 #23
I read today that this guy is essentially a wealthy volunteer who donates weapons and things Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #9
I first heard of it yesterday, thanks to this guy. I was astonished. arcane1 Apr 2015 #10
That is the strangest part about this. bravenak Apr 2015 #11
I agree. I think it should be illegal, for real. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #14
And without the video, we'd know nothing like Jon Snow. bravenak Apr 2015 #16
This is great news Aerows Apr 2015 #65
Oh, that is goood! bravenak Apr 2015 #66
I've been watching the back issues I missed Aerows Apr 2015 #67
I did a marathon this weekend. bravenak Apr 2015 #74
Agreed! brush Apr 2015 #18
I hope they get millions. bravenak Apr 2015 #20
Lots of sheriff offices are under funded and have reserve deputy programs. RealityAdvocate Apr 2015 #61
Our problem Aerows Apr 2015 #68
Didn't they have similar things for Chuck Norris and Steven Seagal? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #76
Steven Seagal Aerows Apr 2015 #79
Ugh. And of course it would turn out to be Arpaio who let him 'ride along'. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #80
I just have to wonder Aerows Apr 2015 #81
I think so. bravenak Apr 2015 #84
It was an episode of Undercover Boss. The people they work for, anyway. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2015 #50
It was stone cold murder. Jetboy Apr 2015 #12
I never looked in to his criminal record. bravenak Apr 2015 #17
Even if the guy was an actual murderer, he was face down on the ground Jetboy Apr 2015 #22
I think you hit the nail on the head. bravenak Apr 2015 #24
Yes, I've heard Rush Limbaugh spewing RWers call that case murder which of Jetboy Apr 2015 #25
I hope you're right. bravenak Apr 2015 #26
Walter Scott and this man in Oklahoma force people to rethink the Ferguson case Jetboy Apr 2015 #28
I only see cops against body cams these days. bravenak Apr 2015 #32
That's why it will happen and soon. It makes sense. It isn't expensive. Jetboy Apr 2015 #33
That's progress, I guess. Too bad it takes a gazillion dead black guys to wake them Nay Apr 2015 #40
Yes. bravenak Apr 2015 #41
You've got that right! Aerows Apr 2015 #71
Somebody had a post up about black people and second amendment rights. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #78
Here's their twisted excuse, ""Slip and Capture" Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #52
One victim here, and it ain't "Reserve Deputy" Bates hatrack Apr 2015 #69
You charge what you can prove. Xithras Apr 2015 #56
Good! Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #13
You're welcome. bravenak Apr 2015 #15
Break out the snow shovels, Satan KamaAina Apr 2015 #19
Ha! No shit!! bravenak Apr 2015 #21
As he should be. But there remains the matter of the asshole deputy. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #27
Yep. He needs to be fired immediately. bravenak Apr 2015 #31
Reminds me of a story from the BART system from a few years ago... Oktober Apr 2015 #29
Was it Oscar Grant? bravenak Apr 2015 #30
I met one of the responding officers... Oktober Apr 2015 #62
He couldn't tell his gun from his Taser? stage left Apr 2015 #34
He donates money and equipment. bravenak Apr 2015 #35
Well Bravenak stage left Apr 2015 #90
read what the right wing good old boy sherrif says rafeh1 Apr 2015 #36
My, he has no empathy at all for the dead. bravenak Apr 2015 #38
And no appreciation of how his words will affect job liability. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #58
He seems angry that people are concerned. bravenak Apr 2015 #60
So can that be used as a defense in Tulsa now? dbackjon Apr 2015 #57
Good God! stage left Apr 2015 #91
Barney Fife should have been made to keep the bullet in his pocket. morningfog Apr 2015 #37
Or not allowed to use a gun. Since he's not a real cop. bravenak Apr 2015 #39
No sh*t etherealtruth Apr 2015 #43
The sherrif is crazy. bravenak Apr 2015 #46
Interesting coments in locsl newspaper website avebury Apr 2015 #42
Wow. No words. bravenak Apr 2015 #44
I bet he walks with no jail time and a fine /nt workinclasszero Apr 2015 #45
The civil suit will be what hurts him most. bravenak Apr 2015 #48
Oh civil suit? workinclasszero Apr 2015 #49
The family of the victim will file. bravenak Apr 2015 #51
How did an overweight 73 year man old pass a physical agility test, procon Apr 2015 #53
I don't think he PASSED anything. bravenak Apr 2015 #54
I wonder if that invalidates Tulsa's liability insurance in this case? nt procon Apr 2015 #55
Probably not since they made him a reserve officer. bravenak Apr 2015 #59
K&R marym625 Apr 2015 #63
I hope so too. bravenak Apr 2015 #64
That should be a new mantra marym625 Apr 2015 #85
Yeah. It sounded like it came f om one of the roid-heads. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2015 #82
sure did marym625 Apr 2015 #86
Let me guess, Mr.Bill Apr 2015 #70
police no longer think black defendents are innocent until proven guilty samsingh Apr 2015 #72
He thought his gun was his Taser?? Bullshit!! The weapon is worn on one side of the belt... Jack-o-Lantern Apr 2015 #73
I agree. bravenak Apr 2015 #75
Did everyone but me know that wealthy people can play cop if they donate to the PD? Apparently sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #87
I just found that out myself. bravenak Apr 2015 #88
I never heard of that before, but they were talking about it as if everyone knew. I was shocked, to sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #89
That's good news, but ya know what I noticed on the news last night? Inkfreak Apr 2015 #92
I noticed that too. bravenak Apr 2015 #93
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