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In reply to the discussion: An Unabashedly Liberal Hillary Clinton [View all]JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The Code Pink women stated that they had discussed the progress of the international weapons inspection team with that team and that Saddam was cooperating. An April 2004 Vanity Fair article on the days and weeks preceding our invasion of Iraq tells the story in full and affirms that Saddam was fully cooperating and that the very few unauthorized weapons (some missiles that were a bit too long if I recall) were to be destroyed. Bush rushed us in over the objections of the French and the rest is history.
Another bit of history that emerges from that video is Hillary's recognition at the time of the vote that Bush was rushing our economy into a crisis by fighting a war while lowering taxes. That was true. I did a lot of research on the Bush administration in 2004. Our economy was in trouble as the dot.com bubble burst or at least no longer fueled our economy beginning in 1999 or 2000. Remember the Bush tax cuts -- the revision of the bankruptcy bill. The time frame for those efforts to "goose" the economy is a bit hazy to me, but I recall that we were already headed toward a disastrous economy in Spring of 2004.
So, Hillary recognized the impending peril to our economy already before the Iraq War had started. But what did she do about it? Did she organize Democratic senators to bargain with Bush to raise the tax money to pay for the war or not get the Democratic votes to support his war resolution? No way.
Contrast that with Elizabeth Warren and her organizing senators and other members of Congress to support her proposals to improve economic fairness in our country. And she actually succeeded in getting the creation of a consumer bureau.
Hillary was not a leader. She was a good follower and a never-rock-the-boater in the Senate. But no leader.
Elizabeth Warren, freshman senator just like Hillary, immediately charged forward, organizing votes for reform proposals. She is the leader. Now I hope that you for one will see why I so strongly urge that Elizabeth Warren, whether she wants to run or not, should be our candidate. Hillary makes a good senator. She is simply not a leader. It isn't in her personality. And that is not surprising. Bill was a leader although he lead in the wrong direction on a number of issues. Still, Bill was a guy who thought to get people together on issues and could get things done. Hillary is too rigid to be a leader.
Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders are better presidential material than Hillary. It isn't really an insult against Hillary. It is mostly a matter of talent and where Hillary fits.
It would be unusual to have a married couple in which both spouses are strong leaders. That was not the case with Eleanor and Franklin Roosevelt. Eleanor was the conscience and took charge more than did Hillary during Bill's presidency. But Eleanor rose to the occasion. What is more her marriage with Franklin Roosevelt was quite rocky as we know.
Two strong leaders in a marriage or any relationship can make things rocky. And, by the way, I am a great admirer of both Eleanor and Franklin Roosevelt. I'm just talking about personalities.