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RufusTFirefly

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22. You'll get no disagreements from me on that!

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 08:42 PM

Apr 2015

Why is that the people who seem to care the most about this country, those who are unafraid to speak the truth regardless of the consequences, are so often destroyed or wind up destroying themselves?

One of the amazing things about DU bête noire Ralph Nader is that the auto industry tried to destroy him and he fought back fearlessly, using the proceeds from his lucrative lawsuit to start a network of public interest groups. But Nader is the exception, not the rule. And he has been rewarded for his heroism with relentless derision.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] paulbibeau Apr 2015 OP

gawd this is depressing.... mike_c Apr 2015 #1

sounds very progressive don't it? n/t PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #2

There isn't much progressive about watching social issues justiceischeap Apr 2015 #4

Boom. Yes. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #6

Yup. Sometimes progress is measured one inch at a time. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #26

Yeah. There's that. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #3

The advancement of Gay Rights during the Obama Administration... bvar22 Apr 2015 #81

I completely agree with you. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #82

Your ideas make me smile......in agreement. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2015 #5

A lot of doughy, old white men... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #7

And I hope they'll dissolve into nothingness... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2015 #8

Oh Lord that would be nice. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #12

how about congress members and other state and local officials JI7 Apr 2015 #9

Not me I like coronations, Primaries are just a waste of time. bahrbearian Apr 2015 #10

Did you forget the "sarcasm" smiley? CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2015 #11

I have to agree with the last treestar Apr 2015 #13

There always was sexism behind it, yes. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #16

I'll support her liberal policies and differ to the cynics for criticism. joshcryer Apr 2015 #14

Expect alert swarms. L0oniX Apr 2015 #15

I know. And I never understand that. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #18

Debate is a good thing. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #17

Debate's ALWAYS a good thing. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #19

Make the liberal case, yes! dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #33

You're pointing out some important stuff here. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #35

Terrific post! RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #20

Bill Hicks was a great American. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #21

You'll get no disagreements from me on that! RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Apr 2015 #23

And, this is how the people VOTE ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #29

And on "extreme left" issues Americans voted directly in a bipartisan fashion FOR them... cascadiance Apr 2015 #57

All while elected State Houses that openly represent the opposite ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #61

And the big media supported the corporate candidates that were the only ones heard... cascadiance Apr 2015 #67

If people don't get off their asses leftynyc Apr 2015 #38

I wish I could tattoo your statement on everybody's face backwards... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Apr 2015 #79

No - I really don't leftynyc Apr 2015 #80

What about after she gets the nomination until election day? DCBob Apr 2015 #24

I'll always tell people who I'm voting for... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #25

Seems you dont really care who ultimately wins. DCBob Apr 2015 #31

Your first statement is silly. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #34

A hatrick of sillier responses. DCBob Apr 2015 #47

I made four statements. Learn your sports metaphors. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #48

waste of effort. DCBob Apr 2015 #60

And yet, you're still commenting. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #64

Wouldn't you pre-General Election time ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #27

Not really. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #28

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #30

Well, woo for you. realFedUp Apr 2015 #32

The fact that you needed to comment shows your error. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author bahrbearian Apr 2015 #42

Ad hominem arguments mean I'm doing something right. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #43

Sounds like a realistic plan. Thanks. nt pnwmom Apr 2015 #37

Yeah. I wanted to sort it all out for myself, and I thought people might connect with it. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #44

I often wonder.... Novara Apr 2015 #39

And ultimately, I don't know that... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #41

I agree. Raise hell.... Novara Apr 2015 #45

Sigh. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #46

sounds like a miserable existence lame54 Apr 2015 #49

Good! ananda Apr 2015 #50

Yes. Plus there is a primary. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #51

Another way to look at it... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #52

And the wealth gap remains the same. WillTwain Apr 2015 #53

whether someone believes her or not, HRC has said her vote and the Iraq war was a mistake. She has still_one Apr 2015 #54

These are all good points. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #55

Criticizing is appropriate exercise of our rights, and to influence people still_one Apr 2015 #63

Yes. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #66

Of course still_one Apr 2015 #70

Great post! nevergiveup Apr 2015 #56

Agreed. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #58

Also, Mark Twain is RIGHTEOUS. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #59

Whoopdee-freakin'-doo...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #62

Sid! paulbibeau Apr 2015 #65

Well, we can't all have your alleged writing prowess...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #72

I've alleged nothing of the sort. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #73

Sounds fair to me. Jamastiene Apr 2015 #68

Thanks. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #69

I'm pretty sure the flame icon isn't about the post being controversial mythology Apr 2015 #71

Yeah, but I've also read the responses... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #74

I like your attitude. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #75

Yeah. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #77

Tread lightly as it seems the 'purge' of hillary detractors started yesterday. I guess the primary Purveyor Apr 2015 #76

Paul is 75 miles away from Chicago, heading toward that city... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #78