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49. Is it 'hard'?

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 08:57 PM

Apr 2015

Probably not. But people aren't going to train themselves to refer to a candidate in a different way simply to please you (or me, or most anyone.)

If the candidate herself comes out and specifically asks people to refer to her as 'Clinton' (or 'Senator' or 'Madame Secretary') then I imagine a lot of folks would.

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Why is everyone referring to Clinton by her first name? [View all] jeff47 Apr 2015 OP

Because we already had a Clinton. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #1

And I addressed those two points above. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #5

not really arely staircase Apr 2015 #96

So only Bill Clinton gets the last name? (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #100

Irefer to her that way out of affection arely staircase Apr 2015 #112

Jeb bigwillq Apr 2015 #2

We're generally deriding Jeb. Not praising him. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #9

I'm not doing either. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #20

the use of jeb itself is not used to deride him JI7 Apr 2015 #104

No, but we're definitely not showing respect for him (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #106

i wouldn't respect him even if i referred to him as bush and i dont respect cruz JI7 Apr 2015 #110

He's actively campaigned as "JEB!" Then there was Ike. And Teddy. And Honest Abe. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2015 #139

When i say Hillary I mean no disrespect. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #3

Distinguish Hillary from Bill liberal N proud Apr 2015 #4

Already covered that in the OP. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #6

You 'covered' it, but people simply disagree with you, and think you're wrong. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #23

Then such a person could post why occasionally using "Bill" is so hard. jeff47 Apr 2015 #31

Is it 'hard'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #49

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #64

My guy is Bernie Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #7

The same reason they call Bush, Jeb, & used RFK, JFK, FDR, etc. Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #8

. jeff47 Apr 2015 #12

Same with John Quincy Adams and just W loyalsister Apr 2015 #142

She refers to herself as such. It's become her brand. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #10

Yes, but we must be offended at something. n/t Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #19

I don't get it. Does OP want us to stop because it helps make her feel approachable PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #28

IMO if we should treat her like we treat every other politician. jeff47 Apr 2015 #38

hmmm. your concern is noted. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #44

A. We don't. Habitually we call them something else when there is the possibility of confusion Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #127

And, over analyze the hell out of everything. Cha Apr 2015 #40

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #69

Yes! That's it frogmarch Apr 2015 #61

It's an unusual name, she is very well-known, and it does bring up Bill Clinton in a subtle way Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #90

Exactly. And if she used Clinton, she'd be accused of riding Bill's coattails. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #94

Oh, brother. n/t earthside Apr 2015 #11

Why does her campaign use it??? former9thward Apr 2015 #13

Already covered in the OP. jeff47 Apr 2015 #15

So you want to make her less friendly and less approachable. former9thward Apr 2015 #27

No, I want to show her the respect I'd show a male politician. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #43

I'll take my cue from her own campaign. former9thward Apr 2015 #73

Do you refer to Obama as Barack? 'Cause his campaign did that too. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #77

In the Chicago mayor race former9thward Apr 2015 #97

What the hell is your problem? HERVEPA Apr 2015 #132

The OP is almost certainly trying to do a "reverse sexism" play here KittyWampus Apr 2015 #146

I had the impression that she preferred being called Hillary. Arkansas Granny Apr 2015 #14

She's selling herself as "Hillary" to appear more approachable and not be jeff47 Apr 2015 #17

Most of us like Democrats. FSogol Apr 2015 #24

Hence the question. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #26

Cool story bro. n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #30

Is that the talking point now? JaneyVee Apr 2015 #105

Nope, polling from her Senate campaign. jeff47 Apr 2015 #108

silly H2O Man Apr 2015 #16

Apparently "Pantsuit" means massive misogyny now. jeff47 Apr 2015 #22

I would agree H2O Man Apr 2015 #29

Except this one is talking about us. Not her. jeff47 Apr 2015 #32

It is still H2O Man Apr 2015 #36

Oh, did you get a hide and started this to be petulant? PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #33

.. Cha Apr 2015 #46

Nope. Shockingly enough, I'm literate and can read other posts! jeff47 Apr 2015 #47

Indeed. nt scarletwoman Apr 2015 #25

Because it's what she uses, I suppose. bravenak Apr 2015 #18

I use HRC, which is quicker than remembering whether Hillary has one or 2 "L"s and avoids FSogol Apr 2015 #21

Because that is how she choses to refer to herself? alphafemale Apr 2015 #34

Covered in 07-08 BeyondGeography Apr 2015 #35

8 years? To hell with that. The 90's are calling!! nt bunnies Apr 2015 #125

Why shouldn't we follow suit? If her campaign uses "Hillary" why shouldn't we? scarletwoman Apr 2015 #37

i use HRC, too. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #39

In the debates what will they call her? treestar Apr 2015 #158

That's a good question. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #159

you tell us Enrique Apr 2015 #41

Yep, back in 2012 I did that. I realized it was wrong of me to strip her of her last name jeff47 Apr 2015 #68

lol! Sissyk Apr 2015 #74

Game.Set.Match. bigwillq Apr 2015 #91

I bet, if Chafee joins the race, he'll be known as Lincoln. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #42

bill clinton is always in the press... spanone Apr 2015 #45

And the count when you exclude "bill" from your search? jeff47 Apr 2015 #54

you said bill's not in the press. you are wrong. spanone Apr 2015 #57

Not to the extent that Hillary Clinton is. So use Clinton for her and jeff47 Apr 2015 #63

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #78

Because she is well known workinclasszero Apr 2015 #48

She branded herself as "Hillary" in 2008 geek tragedy Apr 2015 #50

that doesn't matter Enrique Apr 2015 #79

And Obama branded himself "Barack" in 2008. jeff47 Apr 2015 #85

I don't recall that. The logo was an O. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #89

He did not. 2008 campaign logos. Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #135

I don't think that ever happened. tritsofme Apr 2015 #136

Honest question. forthemiddle Apr 2015 #51

I can't wait for the first 100 year old president! bigwillq Apr 2015 #55

Anything is possible forthemiddle Apr 2015 #60

Unfortunately it will be President Cheney's head in a jar. A la Futurama. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2015 #65

Nixon's back baby!! jeff47 Apr 2015 #82

That would seem to be the effort being made by many of her supporters jeff47 Apr 2015 #58

It was a good question forthemiddle Apr 2015 #66

I happen to agree with you. edgineered Apr 2015 #52

It's Dennis. nt LWolf Apr 2015 #53

Maybe for the same reason people call him "LeBron". DanTex Apr 2015 #56

Naaah--"JEB!!!" is not "Bush." And who could forget "LAMAR?" MADem Apr 2015 #59

Hi... yuiyoshida Apr 2015 #62

At least we don't call her the names we called Palin TBF Apr 2015 #67

True, we could be worse. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #70

Pffft...distraction...irrelevant...maybe even sexist. libdem4life Apr 2015 #71

Yeah, it's so totally sexist to refer to her in the same way jeff47 Apr 2015 #75

Now you're going to "strip her"...you're just an sexist insult a minute. LOL. Strip her. libdem4life Apr 2015 #86

I apoligize that the transitive verb is the same as the noun. jeff47 Apr 2015 #99

For the record, I'm an elementary school teacher...retired. Accepted. libdem4life Apr 2015 #124

That's how she's referring to herself. PeteSelman Apr 2015 #72

Tsk. Tsk. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #76

Why did you write "Tsk.Tsk."? H2O Man Apr 2015 #92

It's a bit Turbineguy Apr 2015 #80

Right. Why not use "vous" when that's what we use everywhere else? jeff47 Apr 2015 #83

Because she made it that way. She requested she be called yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #81

yup. She prefers it that way. alphafemale Apr 2015 #88

You say that again yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #109

Because there are two Clintons LittleBlue Apr 2015 #84

"I like Ike", "Give 'em hell, Harry!", "Honest Abe", "Teddy" tularetom Apr 2015 #87

And those examples are far more rare than last names jeff47 Apr 2015 #93

She's used "Hillary" for all of her own campaigns. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #102

same reason Jeb is usually called by first name JI7 Apr 2015 #95

His first name is John. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2015 #98

well nickname JI7 Apr 2015 #101

I think it's disrespectful to call her Clinton Enrique Apr 2015 #103

As if there weren't important issues at hand ... Trajan Apr 2015 #107

Well after we entered the third dozen of posts complaining about people jeff47 Apr 2015 #113

mitt spanone Apr 2015 #153

This can NOT be a serious post. bunnies Apr 2015 #111

Sorry for interrupting the serious posts jeff47 Apr 2015 #115

Let me be clear. I am NOT a Hillary Clinton supporter... bunnies Apr 2015 #128

I have met & talked with Hillary on a couple of occasions. William769 Apr 2015 #114

Nope, not covered, but there's very few of us who have personal permission. jeff47 Apr 2015 #117

I believe I have shown her the respect she has asked for. William769 Apr 2015 #120

And I was talking about the rest of us who haven't met her. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #121

Why does her logo have an 'H' in it rather than a 'C'? n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #116

Gotta put the arrow somewhere. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #118

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #119

If Hillary doesn't have a problem with it, Blue_In_AK Apr 2015 #122

So, are you implying it's somehow sexist... TDale313 Apr 2015 #123

How do we recognize Beyonce, Brittney, Christina, Michael J., Sting, Bon Jovi? libdem4life Apr 2015 #126

Bon Jovi is a last name. bunnies Apr 2015 #129

Too wierd. libdem4life Apr 2015 #147

That's a weird OP from someone named "jeff"47. Dr. Strange Apr 2015 #130

Because that's what she prefers. NYC Liberal Apr 2015 #131

Your premise doesn't ring true at all, ie Ike, Rahm, Jeb, Teddy. "I like Ike" is probably one of the tritsofme Apr 2015 #133

For the same reason ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #134

Because we "know" her justiceischeap Apr 2015 #137

Her name is Hillary realFedUp Apr 2015 #138

FFS, her slogan is "Hillary For America"! zappaman Apr 2015 #140

it's the 'reverse sexism' gambit going down in flames. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #148

It's already being used by some to point to how ridiculous "feminists" are... boston bean Apr 2015 #165

I dunno...did she pipi_k Apr 2015 #141

To distinguish her from Bill. Adrahil Apr 2015 #143

Ditto. nt Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #163

I think she clearly prefers it; see The Logo. cyberswede Apr 2015 #144

I use HRC. It works. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #145

Because she insisted I call her Hillary back when I helped Bill campaign for AR governor. Good... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #149

Perhaps because she likes it that way? brooklynite Apr 2015 #150

It is good that now all the questions about her are coming to light! Rex Apr 2015 #151

Look at her 2008 campaign signs. RandySF Apr 2015 #152

2 points doxyluv13 Apr 2015 #154

I wonder that myself, and try to avoid "Hillary" Scootaloo Apr 2015 #155

Mitt, Ike, and Bobby were taken jberryhill Apr 2015 #156

Jeb. Rand. And for 20 years "Clinton" has meant Bill Clinton. nt Hekate Apr 2015 #157

Because its her first name. romanic Apr 2015 #160

The news isn't doing it. joshcryer Apr 2015 #161

I call my doctor Fred Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #162

When Hillary came to Arkansas, she kept her own last name for years. This was not a popular Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #164

They don't want to confuse dumb-ass republicans who still hate Bill for having B Calm Apr 2015 #166