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55. We went to high school with and knew people who were openly gay in the sixties, worked with them,

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 07:14 AM

Apr 2015

did business, saw them as just normal people. So this is nothing new for us. Even when we were kids and went to a church, they never discussed abortion, gays, etc. And they respected the government's right to make the laws for everyone that they had to obey.

She worked professionally with gays in her advertising job, and their talents were great, and she couldn't bear to think of them being abused. There were many 'gay' neighborhoods, bars adn restaurants. It was just normal.

And we were both pro-choice. This is how we always were. When she started getting into the tea party I think she was going through a bout of mental problems. She was in a rage all the time, looking for something wrong. Watching Beck and Faux and gobbling up conservative infotainment swill.

Because she was pretty much housebound and felt oppressed for various reasons. Also she was being fed a full mental diet of FEAR. But Obama made her family's life much better. Now she feels freer.

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A bank teller today illustrated how Bill Clinton may provide a "halo effect" for Hillary [View all] Gloria Apr 2015 OP

IOW, you ran into a low info voter who never heard of NAFTA, repeal of Glass Steagall, merrily Apr 2015 #1

+1000 DeSwiss Apr 2015 #2

Thanks. merrily Apr 2015 #3

because the curent estbalishment, including Hillary DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #41

That changes things in any way how? joshcryer Apr 2015 #4

Aww. look what you tried to do there. merrily Apr 2015 #10

"IOW, you ran into a low info voter" joshcryer Apr 2015 #13

Full of substance, was it? You... TreasonousBastard Apr 2015 #44

"Substance" vs. ad hom. Yes, it was. merrily Apr 2015 #47

And yet, you called a 20 year old bank teller a "low info voter" leftofcool Apr 2015 #49

Did you have a point? Or did you just see an ad hom about me and decide to pile on? merrily Apr 2015 #54

Do you believe that Hillary Clinton is the same as Bill clinton? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #65

You might not have meant to do this but DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #45

I appreciate this reply, immensely. joshcryer Apr 2015 #46

To be honest, I did not think you meant it that way DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #56

I thought the youth vote in general are most likely to vote Democratic and older white men merrily Apr 2015 #69

LOL joshcryer Apr 2015 #71

that doesn't change the fact that things were better under Clinton than under republicans JI7 Apr 2015 #23

The reasons they were better matter. Housing prices were great under Dimson--until merrily Apr 2015 #28

Do you agree Dodd-Frank fixed most of the issues? joshcryer Apr 2015 #30

LOL, anything CAN be brought back, including the entire New Deal. merrily Apr 2015 #31

LOL joshcryer Apr 2015 #32

LOL! Gotta laugh or cry when josh tries so hard to twist. I prefer to LOL! merrily Apr 2015 #34

Yes, you do. joshcryer Apr 2015 #37

Bill Clinton made mistakes. joshcryer Apr 2015 #29

Are you covering that bet? 'Cause I would have bet no Democratic President would have merrily Apr 2015 #33

How much? joshcryer Apr 2015 #36

Big internet talk. May I bill your paypal account? merrily Apr 2015 #39

I prefer bitcoin. joshcryer Apr 2015 #40

By when? merrily Apr 2015 #42

Well, it's kinda obvious, no? joshcryer Apr 2015 #43

No, but since you answered my question, it became obvious. merrily Apr 2015 #51

The Reagan administration caused the whole mess with its gigantic budget deficits. pnwmom Apr 2015 #58

Gee, pwnmom, guess you missed that teensy bit about Clinton's having ended welfare "as we know it." merrily Apr 2015 #59

That "teensy bit" doesn't cancel out the gigantic whopper about the Reagan "tax increases" pnwmom Apr 2015 #60

Reagan and Bush both increased taxes and fees. Is your claim that revenues are irrelevant? merrily Apr 2015 #62

The Reagan administration produced unprecedented, huge deficits despite whatever pnwmom Apr 2015 #64

Ah, so you are actually claiming revenues are irrelevant. k. merrily Apr 2015 #75

You pretty much said it all. Wonder what the "halo effect" will be when the skeletons in Bill's closet are dragged out for all to see. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #66

Thank you. merrily Apr 2015 #68

Good catch (22) btw. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #67

Thank you. It kind of leapt out from the OP. merrily Apr 2015 #70

Thanks for sharing that. I seem to recall, when Hillary was first confronted with her lie, she doubled down... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #73

You're welcome. merrily Apr 2015 #74

This personal experience by the OP illustrates the power of perception, and how it can benefit BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #76

So in other words.... davidn3600 Apr 2015 #5

FWIW, if anything, Sanders has been mentioning a period of the last 35 or so years, as merrily Apr 2015 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author billhicks76 Apr 2015 #6

A bank teller is no more a banker than a secretary is a Senator. joshcryer Apr 2015 #8

josh would much rather focus on what we post about this young guy than on any inconvenient issue merrily Apr 2015 #12

Hi. joshcryer Apr 2015 #15

Yes. Obviously. And? merrily Apr 2015 #18

I have a fan club! joshcryer Apr 2015 #21

bank tellers are more on the level of fast food employees than wall st tycoons JI7 Apr 2015 #20

Yeah, that's a pretty silly statement. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #35

My mom is uber conservative and has uber conservative friends on FB. joshcryer Apr 2015 #7

I think in the privacy of the voting booth, a lot of Republican women will cross the line. lostnfound Apr 2015 #17

Polls suggest 35% of Republican women would do that. joshcryer Apr 2015 #24

The Republicans know and fear this. DCBob Apr 2015 #52

Hillary is bringing my batshit teabag sister back. It's about women and gay rights for her, the rest freshwest Apr 2015 #48

It amazes me how many conservative women are becoming for gay rights. joshcryer Apr 2015 #50

We went to high school with and knew people who were openly gay in the sixties, worked with them, freshwest Apr 2015 #55

Somebody needs to explain to him... MattSh Apr 2015 #9

Hello! BOTH the 1980s Republican and the 1990s New Democrat. merrily Apr 2015 #11

Low info voters don't know that. joshcryer Apr 2015 #14

Hello. YOU mentioned low info voters? merrily Apr 2015 #16

I don't have a problem with them. joshcryer Apr 2015 #19

Neither do I, yet you pretended my merely using that term was wrong. merrily Apr 2015 #22

"Gotta laugh or cry, one or the other. I've been laughing." joshcryer Apr 2015 #25

No, those were my words about the Catch 22 (& similar), as LITERALLY anyone can discern. merrily Apr 2015 #26

"Neat catch 22 there, too." REFERRING to "low info voters." joshcryer Apr 2015 #27

And explain to a chorus here that the policies of FDR.... Historic NY Apr 2015 #61

You do realize that even if you are telling the truth, TM99 Apr 2015 #53

Our 28 year old daughter loved the Clinton's in the White House liberal N proud Apr 2015 #57

That's very different from knowing what the national economy was like at age 10 merrily Apr 2015 #63

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