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In reply to the discussion: Here's the thing - don't expect me to be enthused about someone who cozys up to a mass murderer. [View all]H2O Man
(78,880 posts)is a lady that I have gotten to know fairly well over the years. And someone that I have great respect for -- in my experience on DU, she ranks at the very top level of people that I consider Good Friends. Indeed, we are such Good Friends that, even if we may disagree on a specific issue, or in our views of a specific individual, it in no way reduces that mutual respect. For me, that is the best thing about this forum -- finding people like that who, because of physical distances, we would not otherwise encounter in life.
I'm "undecided" about Hillary Clinton. I have supported her in two US Senate races. And I've never failed to vote for the Democratic Party's candidate in a presidential election. Indeed, I have invested money, time, and energy in campaigning for almost all of them, as well as voting for them.
A fairly high percentage of people I like, and consider friends here on DU, are among the energetic and passionate Hillary Clinton supporters you spoke of. Likewise, a fairly high percentage of those that I am not fond of are, as well. But I do not question their motivation: they are Good Democrats, who honestly and sincerely believe that Ms. Clinton offers the nation the best opportunity for progress.
I do question some of the tactics that I see here on the forum. I always view election contests as including three groups: [a] those who will definitely vote for you; those who will definitely vote against you; and [c] the undecideds, who frequently decide elections. It is difficult for me to believe that the pro-Clinton folks on DU will be able to appeal to Group C in either the primary contest, or general election.
Still, I do not question their right to post whatever OPs they want, or to respond to other OPs -- including those they disagree with -- in whatever manner they want. I think it is a shame that they are too busy with swarming tactics to take note of the many lone responses by Clinton supporters that actually do appeal to Group C voters -- and, for that matter, have the potential to win over some here who currently are opposed to Hillary Clinton.
Indeed, at this point, both on DU and in real life, I find the "worst" thing about the Clinton campaign is not the candidate, but is the level of toxicity among many of her supporters.+