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Liberal_Stalwart71

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87. "My sick assessment"? How is it sick? It's the tone of your entire OP. You provide no link.

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 03:52 PM

Apr 2015

Then, I go to look up the content and find that it comes from the Washington Times--conservative newspaper.

Even if Trumpka did utter these words, I looked up the other quotes you posted and couldn't find a link.

Now, if you read my other statements, you would see that I clearly stated that neither Obama nor Clinton reflect my views. However, the tone of your posts clearly lead me to believe that you have ulterior motives.

Bottom line: It is fair and just for Trumpka and AFL-CIO not to endorse ANY candidate until said candidate proves himself/herself worthy of that endorsement.

Sorry but Clinton gets no special treatment. And I applaud Trumpka for that.

Do I like Obama's economic team? No. But in all fairness, that same team was virtually the same team that served under President Bill Clinton.

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After Hillary Announcement: AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka Still Looking At All Candidates [View all] WillTwain Apr 2015 OP

As Hillary said--she willl earn the vote. riversedge Apr 2015 #1

I hope so. WillTwain Apr 2015 #2

As we saw so starkly with Obama, Maedhros Apr 2015 #28

I really think Labor is going to move Hillary left in concrete ways or they will move to another. WillTwain Apr 2015 #36

I'm not so sure. Maedhros Apr 2015 #41

Maybe, we will see. This is about the future of hundreds of millions of American workers. WillTwain Apr 2015 #44

Maybe I'm being too cynical. Maedhros Apr 2015 #47

I really sense it is different this time. I could be a fool. WillTwain Apr 2015 #55

Trumka long ago forgot where he came from, bvar22 Apr 2015 #114

Any quotes of policy moves you can send would be of great help. WillTwain Apr 2015 #115

Policy moves for Obama....or Trumka. bvar22 Apr 2015 #119

Man, that is a great list. Everyone should check it out. But, I wanted Trumka's bad policy or quotes WillTwain Apr 2015 #120

Any labor person that watches that video must feel betrayed by the POTUS. WillTwain Apr 2015 #121

If that were the only one, bvar22 Apr 2015 #123

Has any of Obama's interest groups been more neglected than labor? WillTwain Apr 2015 #124

The Obama Administration has been openly hostile to Organized LABOR. bvar22 Apr 2015 #140

More Evidence Of Obama's Disrespect Of Workers - They Wonder Why Obama Bums Us Out WillTwain Apr 2015 #141

I would hope so. PatrynXX Apr 2015 #86

I am down the middle with Hillary. Very strong on foreign affairs, social issues. WillTwain Apr 2015 #91

+1000. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #60

Excellent point MissDeeds Apr 2015 #95

It's easy because we make it easy. Maedhros Apr 2015 #99

Our leadership is toying with us. WillTwain Apr 2015 #100

Paging Elizabeth Warren . . . please pick up the blue courtesy phone. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #127

Hillary is sounding like Warren. WillTwain Apr 2015 #135

Yup, smart move by Hillary's handlers. Wud help tho if she sounded more natural by stating her populist positions without havin to refer to her notes. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #136

Saw that, WillTwain Apr 2015 #138

Yeah, with $2,500,000,000 dollars. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #43

And water is still wet. Since we are still waiting to see who the other candidates will be. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #3

+1 n/t tammywammy Apr 2015 #6

The point is this is labor is holding back on endorsing Hillary. WillTwain Apr 2015 #8

You need to prove your point with links, not just repeat it. Since 2004, I don't think Labor has stevenleser Apr 2015 #9

Here's the link. Zero labor endorsements in 2008 this early out. The earliest were August 2007. stevenleser Apr 2015 #14

it is different this time. WillTwain Apr 2015 #20

No, it's not. They likely haven't even met to discuss it yet and won't for some time. nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #22

Believe me, they are in contact all the time - constantly. WillTwain Apr 2015 #31

Labor did not support anyone quite this early in the 2008 campaign. (See links below) Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #16

Actually, it is big news. WillTwain Apr 2015 #25

I will wait for them to determine who they support. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #26

Me, too. WillTwain Apr 2015 #32

Yes. There are a number of crucial issues, but a major one is who would JDPriestly Apr 2015 #62

Trumka is our hope. His pick gets my vote. WillTwain Apr 2015 #65

You're so transparent. Your disdain for Obama is obvious. The economic team that served Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #79

Exactly, you nailed it. And I resent your sick assessment of my opinion of Obama. WillTwain Apr 2015 #84

"My sick assessment"? How is it sick? It's the tone of your entire OP. You provide no link. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #87

The tone is internal to your head. You are looking for racism that does not exist. I resent it. WillTwain Apr 2015 #89

My posts had nothing to do with race. Are you admitting to something that's not there? Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #142

You did it again, stop the pseudo-psychology lameness. WillTwain Apr 2015 #143

Where did I imply or state anything about race? Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #146

What is it about? You brought it up not me. WillTwain Apr 2015 #148

You said I have ulterior motives. come on make something up. WillTwain Apr 2015 #150

Who said I am white? WillTwain Apr 2015 #149

Cat got your tongue? Lose your internet? WillTwain Apr 2015 #145

You have more to answer about. WillTwain Apr 2015 #144

Bill Clinton's policies did a great deal to hurt the middle class. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #147

I said Clinton's team was the same long before you. WillTwain Apr 2015 #151

This shows how bad things have become for working Americans, to me. appalachiablue Apr 2015 #90

This is the result of being burned too many times. WillTwain Apr 2015 #93

Don't we know it. Labor chiefs are right to hold back after C & O. That the Democratic Party appalachiablue Apr 2015 #101

Great read. Do you see FDR in Obama? WillTwain Apr 2015 #102

Howard Dean got a lot of big labor support early. It didn't put him over the top. stevenleser Apr 2015 #4

Labor ultimately got behind every democratic nominee. This time may be different. WillTwain Apr 2015 #10

It wont be different. nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #11

We will see. They are desperate and need help. WillTwain Apr 2015 #19

DLC in Iowa - Anyone here who was in Iowa/2000 fadedrose Apr 2015 #15

Have you ever worked on a presidential campaign in a big city? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #64

I didn't say labor was invisible. I said they havent been making the difference in primaries. nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #67

It is because they have faithfully endorsed Democrats. who have burned them - OBAMA. WillTwain Apr 2015 #71

Thank you. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #76

Solidarity Brother WillTwain Apr 2015 #125

You and Will both sound confused. In the primary cycles, it is not the Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #108

This should clear up the confusion. WillTwain Apr 2015 #116

I have walked with union members, too. It is inspiring to see people actually fighting not bitching. WillTwain Apr 2015 #69

The AFL-CIO supports building the Keystone XL Pipeline. BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #5

Note my above discussion of labor's early endorsements of Dean in 2004, I think that is why stevenleser Apr 2015 #7

With all respect, that is a real slap at unions. WillTwain Apr 2015 #13

Don't agree at all. Unions rely on temporary jobs, much like Keystone would produce. Dawgs Apr 2015 #29

The pipeline is a small project. WillTwain Apr 2015 #39

Small compared to Mall of America, but not small. n/t Dawgs Apr 2015 #53

Construction unions are for it Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #45

Overall, It is not driving Trumka's thinking. He has much bigger things in mind. WillTwain Apr 2015 #49

Thank you for mentioning this. mmonk Apr 2015 #63

The IBEW would disagree with you. former9thward Apr 2015 #104

Interesting, WillTwain Apr 2015 #109

I stand corrected Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #113

Well stated by Trumka. Common sense. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #12

I think Trumka is saying after all are in they will pick the best candidate. Hillary is no guarantee WillTwain Apr 2015 #17

Seems like common sense to me. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #21

It is a game of chicken. WillTwain Apr 2015 #24

No. He is smarter than that and understands his position. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #35

He may have no choice. Another right-leaning dem will end them. WillTwain Apr 2015 #37

Fact is he does have a choice. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #38

This is another Trumka quote, WillTwain Apr 2015 #40

He must demand change. It makes perfect sense. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #51

Read the whole thread. His quotes are intriguing. WillTwain Apr 2015 #56

You're making these statements without a link. Please post a link, please. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #81

Ever googled? WillTwain Apr 2015 #85

No way. I'm guessing it'll be O'malley if Elizabeth doesn't get in. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #137

That would be wild. WillTwain Apr 2015 #139

ok...so the possibility of going with Walker is appealing? Sheepshank Apr 2015 #18

I do not understand. They would never endorse Walker. WillTwain Apr 2015 #23

It's the old straw man argument we are damned to hear from now until the primaries are over. mmonk Apr 2015 #52

Really frickin boring to be honest. WillTwain Apr 2015 #57

Yup. But such lack of conversation on issues always is. mmonk Apr 2015 #59

how does going with the 3rd party help their cause and keep Unions alive and viable? Sheepshank Apr 2015 #58

How does Hillary survive without them? It is a stand off - a game of chicken. WillTwain Apr 2015 #98

clearly a game of chicken...but Hillary has a better chance of coming out this. Sheepshank Apr 2015 #105

She may have a slight edge. WillTwain Apr 2015 #107

This is the primary. Why would they endorse someone when there may be other hats in the ring? jwirr Apr 2015 #27

What they are saying is she is no guarantee. It is different this time. WillTwain Apr 2015 #30

I won't be surprised. But I know for a fact that they will not vote R. However, many of the jwirr Apr 2015 #33

For sure, WillTwain Apr 2015 #34

Labor is this country's last, best hope for change. Maedhros Apr 2015 #42

if labor sells out, it is lights out. WillTwain Apr 2015 #46

Over in another OP today Trumka strongly implies TPP will be a huge factor on the endorsment Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #48

Thanks Steve WillTwain Apr 2015 #50

Telling Trumka quote from your post WillTwain Apr 2015 #54

Thanks. 840high Apr 2015 #131

Only a fool would endorse Hillary at this time. Others are thinking of running Autumn Apr 2015 #61

Richard Trumka is no fool. - Not this time. WillTwain Apr 2015 #73

Yeah turbinetree Apr 2015 #66

Richard Trumka needs to be heard. WillTwain Apr 2015 #68

I agree turbinetree Apr 2015 #152

Some say he is removed from his past, any ideas? WillTwain Apr 2015 #153

Richard Trumka looks at all candidates. And he should. He looked at all the candidates in 2007. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #70

In 2007, in an act of blind faith, endorsed Obama. They have regrets. WillTwain Apr 2015 #72

"They have regrets"? Where do you see that? They may have been disappointed Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #74

They are very open about it. Please read the thread, so I do not need to re-type. Thanks. WillTwain Apr 2015 #75

Open about what? Not supporting anyone in the primaries? They didn't support anyone this Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #78

Please read the thread. They are extremely bothered by Obama on many issues, including the TPP. WillTwain Apr 2015 #82

In 2008, as in most years, AFL-CIO made no Primary endorsement and offered endorsement to Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #110

Again, Trumka released this the day after Hillary endorsed. WillTwain Apr 2015 #111

If she is the nominee, she'll get the endorsement. MineralMan Apr 2015 #77

She is messaging well. Actually, so are the Republicans on income inequality. WillTwain Apr 2015 #80

Well said. The tipping point is here though many do not recognize it. mmonk Apr 2015 #83

This is serious and half of all democrats could care less about unions and how important they are WillTwain Apr 2015 #88

Does that mean they would consider republican candidates also? still_one Apr 2015 #92

Not a chance, Maybe a third party. WillTwain Apr 2015 #94

I hope you are right still_one Apr 2015 #96

They may put their huge donations to work on congressional races, instead. WillTwain Apr 2015 #97

I'd vote for Trumka if he ran, but this framing is bogus, AFL-CIO would never endorse ahead of Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #103

This is deeper than that. WillTwain Apr 2015 #106

In 2008, as in most years, AFL-CIO made no Primary endorsement and offered endorsement to Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #112

I am a union member, too. As I have already written, this time is different. WillTwain Apr 2015 #117

I should have linked this earlier, sorry. The interview is tough on Obama. WillTwain Apr 2015 #118

Check out comment 119 by BVAR, and see why Labor is ready for a new plan. WillTwain Apr 2015 #122

After Bill and NAFTA and Hillary's writing of the TPP, he should be leery. PeteSelman Apr 2015 #126

Except Labor WillTwain Apr 2015 #128

Yeah but it's all bullshit. PeteSelman Apr 2015 #129

What is this - Reich and his "rich, white construction workers" bullshit WillTwain Apr 2015 #130

Here's a link. PeteSelman Apr 2015 #133

Reich is way out of line on this. WillTwain Apr 2015 #134

+1 840high Apr 2015 #132