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guillaumeb

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31. from one who has roots in both countries

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 03:35 PM

Apr 2015

my feeling is that there has always been a conflict in the US between the would be theocrats who want to establish a religious society and the enlightenment types who wrote the Constitution.

Some of the English colonies were established by people who wanted to establish their own religious colony/colonies in opposition to the Church of England.

Plus religion was used by many in the US as a justification for slavery. Another thing Canadians never suffered from.

But when Pauline Marois was Prime Minister in Quebec, for such a short time, she tried to use religion as a distraction by pushing for a ban on religious expression/symbols.

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One difference between our countries [View all] Susannah Elf Apr 2015 OP

Immaturity, people use religion as a justification. It is childish, which is why I get so NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #1

Do you have any evidence that Obama is an Atheist el_bryanto Apr 2015 #3

None, other than he is an extremely intelligent, educated person. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #8

Yes - i know what you mean el_bryanto Apr 2015 #9

I wasnt speaking of kind of generousness, but since you brought it up. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #11

Nods - well we'll see how things shake out el_bryanto Apr 2015 #13

Not believing in something that there is no logical reason to believe in is not a belief NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #23

Thank you for that correction el_bryanto Apr 2015 #25

I am discussing this with someone else right now here at DU who I also respect but who is NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #26

An entertaining movie - I quite enjoyed it. el_bryanto Apr 2015 #30

Sure, would be great if we could eliminate religion, but wont happen in my lifetime. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #32

It's simple enough el_bryanto Apr 2015 #33

Oh, yeah, I agree on that. I mean while I dont want a believer in a position of decision NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #34

I think that saying that, though, is the same as me saying el_bryanto Apr 2015 #35

This is what I mean Susannah Elf Apr 2015 #16

Is it not possible to not believe without bashing others' beliefs like that? KamaAina Apr 2015 #21

Guilty as charged, I spent way too long pretending that believing in the invisible man NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #24

Thank you for that KamaAina Apr 2015 #27

You really think so, you really think people leave DU because someone like me makes fun NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #29

I am very new to DU Susannah Elf Apr 2015 #39

The Cold War probably plays a big part in that el_bryanto Apr 2015 #2

I think you have a point Jim Beard Apr 2015 #5

Interesting. Susannah Elf Apr 2015 #17

If you want to read more on this subject el_bryanto Apr 2015 #22

All I have to say is that it's complicated. merrily Apr 2015 #4

I think the RW reconized that they could use religious fundies as useful idiots cyberswede Apr 2015 #6

They used the fact that Jim Beard Apr 2015 #7

You've got it! staggerleem Apr 2015 #15

Great responses, everyone! Susannah Elf Apr 2015 #18

heck, the Baptists even had to have a coup to serve as a quarter of the New Right MisterP Apr 2015 #40

I know this will sound silly but here goes...... (Netflix did it!) Jim Beard Apr 2015 #10

The wonderful Susannah Elf Apr 2015 #19

Until recently in the US, atheists were expected to shut the f@#$ up at all times Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #12

We broke the cardinal rule for good government. Rex Apr 2015 #14

Unfortunately Susannah Elf Apr 2015 #20

Freedom of religion is why folks started to come here fadedrose Apr 2015 #28

from one who has roots in both countries guillaumeb Apr 2015 #31

That is true. Susannah Elf Apr 2015 #36

I do not know what province you are from, but mine is Quebec. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #38

Also, we may not have had to justify slavery Susannah Elf Apr 2015 #37