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fadedrose

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33. I'm not running and it's not up to me to "beat" her

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 04:41 PM

Apr 2015

And my mind goes the way it wants to. Even when I talk myself into or out of something, feelings are not something one can control. I have a nagging discomfort and I'm not enjoying the game, and I have no idea of what you mean by my thinking the way I do is not going to cut it.

Cut what? If she wins, I don't get my way. So what? The sun will still rise, birds will sing, flowers will bloom. It won't be the first time I didn't get my way. Not to worry about me, CreekDog, and I love dogs, even muddy from the creek.

Maybe I'm not 100% pleased with your thinking either, but am not asking you to change. Your mind is your own and you can think or say what you want. I expect the same courtesy in return because, frankly, I can't change even if I wanted to

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Hillary Clinton vs Bernie Sanders top donors compared [View all] Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 OP

k&r polichick Apr 2015 #1

+1. K & R appalachiablue Apr 2015 #2

Really has nothing to do with Hillary or Sanders. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #3

Exactly. The way the system is setup today unless you have money for your campaign you will face an still_one Apr 2015 #8

Somehow it needs to be gotten a hold of. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #12

That all depends on who is included in your definition of "we". staggerleem Apr 2015 #124

I saw this chart yesterday arikara Apr 2015 #130

Reforms determined by whom tho? fadedrose Apr 2015 #20

Hillary's donors -- all corporate and law firms that JDPriestly Apr 2015 #57

He is a senator from VT... Agschmid Apr 2015 #62

You really think that's the reason? MattSh Apr 2015 #84

It sure is a BIG part of it. Agschmid Apr 2015 #85

You don't think most of them know she is no longer a New York Senator and is now powerless? A Simple Game Apr 2015 #97

Are you aware open secrets reports groups INDIVIDUAL PERSONAL DONATIONS by their employer? emulatorloo Apr 2015 #70

Not entirely Depaysement Apr 2015 #79

Yep, there are two columns. Individual. PAC. emulatorloo Apr 2015 #83

Believe it or not Depaysement Apr 2015 #89

Hillary=corporations Sanders=unions RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #78

You are so right. The apples (1%) love HRC and the oranges (99%) love Sen Sanders. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #120

Bernie has more supporters with less money fadedrose Apr 2015 #4

Actually, Bernie has LESS supporters with less money... brooklynite Apr 2015 #9

This is why I won't withhold my funding from Bernie, I'm not a 1%er but Autumn Apr 2015 #17

Whether you're a 1%er or not, you can't give more that $2700 for the Primary period. brooklynite Apr 2015 #22

Every little bit counts. Autumn Apr 2015 #27

So that is why the largest dollar contributor on those two lists is for $2700, right? salib Apr 2015 #46

Read the fine print... brooklynite Apr 2015 #50

It is more subtle than that. salib Apr 2015 #59

Good points. BlueMTexpat Apr 2015 #88

Hillary has no poor supporters? CreekDog Apr 2015 #16

It's a matter of what you call "poor" fadedrose Apr 2015 #26

You're speculating that Hillary has NO LOW INCOME supporters? CreekDog Apr 2015 #31

I'm not running and it's not up to me to "beat" her fadedrose Apr 2015 #33

So now you're running away from your statement that Hillary has no low income supporters? CreekDog Apr 2015 #37

Sorry, I am never "Right" fadedrose Apr 2015 #39

H. Clinton represents the 1% banksters no matter how you try to twist it. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #121

Most of the poor will be devastated - no, decimated, actually - by a GOP president. freshwest Apr 2015 #142

Bernie's said that he'll base his decision whether or not to declare himself a candidate ... staggerleem Apr 2015 #126

How come I'm not on Bernie's list? mmonk Apr 2015 #5

In effect, these lists show who we're REALLY voting for Maedhros Apr 2015 #6

Eeyup. You have it in one. hifiguy Apr 2015 #45

That's the choice I've been looking for. Go, Bernie!! JEB Apr 2015 #104

... yep 840high Apr 2015 #67

Souls are being sold to the highest bidding banksters. L0oniX Apr 2015 #109

In this part of the campaign, we vote with our wallets. staggerleem Apr 2015 #128

If a small number of bigots can raise $800K in a week for a discriminatory pizza restaurant, Maedhros Apr 2015 #132

The first four comparison tells you all you need to know and I didn't need Autumn Apr 2015 #7

I will vote for Bernie too MissDeeds Apr 2015 #21

When you consider this Autumn Apr 2015 #25

Same here MissDeeds Apr 2015 #28

I do see a trend Douglas Carpenter Apr 2015 #10

these are individuals lumped by where they work? KittyWampus Apr 2015 #11

Yes emulatorloo Apr 2015 #73

So it's just the people who work for the unions? treestar Apr 2015 #90

Not exactly Depaysement Apr 2015 #77

Whats good for Goldman is good for me! bunnies Apr 2015 #13

It should be clear by now that such considerations whatchamacallit Apr 2015 #14

Hillary's donors are a who's who of corporations responsible for the financial collapse LittleBlue Apr 2015 #15

Well THAT tell me a WHOLE lot. 1 (maybe 2 if you count U. CA) out of the top 20 kelly1mm Apr 2015 #18

Says it all really... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #19

I just noticed your avatar arcane1 Apr 2015 #34

Thanks! truebrit71 Apr 2015 #68

see? the numbers don't lie: Hillary is on the side of workers, and the so-called lefty Sanders MisterP Apr 2015 #23

I remember this every time -- Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2015 #24

This should be a headline article sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #29

K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #30

Recommended and bookmarked. nt NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #32

I'm not on the list! William769 Apr 2015 #35

No doubt about who Hillary works for. bvar22 Apr 2015 #36

Don't forget to theaocp Apr 2015 #38

k&r!! PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #40

MUST SEE: 4/8/15 Comedy Central panel @ 12:12 proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #41

Crap Comparison flying-skeleton Apr 2015 #42

Why? mmonk Apr 2015 #43

Excellent question BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #117

Yes and no dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #86

You miss the point, being that big money banksters love HRC and common people support rhett o rick Apr 2015 #122

The facts do not lie. Maedhros Apr 2015 #127

For sure one thing this shows is Bernie can't raise enough money boston bean Apr 2015 #44

If Bernie were to win the primary, which is certainly possible without billions salib Apr 2015 #47

He would lose all his principled supporters of course. boston bean Apr 2015 #49

Why? salib Apr 2015 #58

Because he would then be "beholden" to the 1%. boston bean Apr 2015 #72

So, you are saying that he cannot raise money without being beholden to the 1%? salib Apr 2015 #100

You're argument would be with other Bernie supporters boston bean Apr 2015 #141

How is it possible to win the Primary without several hundred million dollars? brooklynite Apr 2015 #52

Primaries are not THAT expensive. Please, you do the research this time. salib Apr 2015 #61

Your defeatist, self-fulfilling prophecies are uninspiring. Maedhros Apr 2015 #129

And Republicans go unlisted? world wide wally Apr 2015 #48

I never vote for Republicans. Ever. 99Forever Apr 2015 #95

Here's Mitch McConnell's Career Profile: Maedhros Apr 2015 #131

Then go vote Republican world wide wally Apr 2015 #134

These are career numbers from 1989-2014, Maedhros Apr 2015 #136

If Bernie is going ot run in a 5 to 6 billion dollar election, he better find more donors. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #51

Hillary's sugar daddies sulphurdunn Apr 2015 #53

Posted without comment. Sissyk Apr 2015 #110

Huh, my peeps are number 7 Babel_17 Apr 2015 #54

Where is Bernie's lobbyists meetings listed. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #55

He's fabulous zentrum Apr 2015 #56

Oh yeah and Bernie is SOOOOOO going to beat Jeb with those figures! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #60

Because it's all about who can raise the most money on Wall Street. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #63

and how are you going to get elected without it in the CURRENT environment? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #64

Why bother to have an actual election? JEB Apr 2015 #105

BECAUSE WE can effect that outcome... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #108

Catch-22. JEB Apr 2015 #111

No it isn't... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #112

That is why Bernie can win without the dirty money. JEB Apr 2015 #114

No that is why Bernie cannot win without becoming a Democrat.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #115

The arithmetic tells me that Hillary will not be looking JEB Apr 2015 #116

Which one of those two has been the presumptive nominee since 2004? truebrit71 Apr 2015 #69

well like I said...that's Idealism..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #81

It's really sad that it's all about the money. nt cyberswede Apr 2015 #80

Yes sad....but there is no way around it at this moment in time....if WE want to change it VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #82

So that is $10 million for HRC...gee where does the extra $1,990 million come from!? Rex Apr 2015 #65

k/r if Sanders runs 840high Apr 2015 #66

Run, Bernie, RUN!!! mother earth Apr 2015 #71

If he gets the nomination, those same donors will back him BainsBane Apr 2015 #138

If he gets elected, there will be actual change, not pre-election lip service. He's the real deal. mother earth Apr 2015 #140

To the Greatest Page. woo me with science Apr 2015 #74

How dare Democrats sell their souls to the very ones that almost destroyed the USA in 2008. L0oniX Apr 2015 #113

One column is individual donors. The other column (PAC) is what the company donated. emulatorloo Apr 2015 #75

Shhhh kjones Apr 2015 #91

Bundling. mmonk Apr 2015 #92

Very telling. nt valerief Apr 2015 #76

And to think the Republicans decided to wipe out unions to cut off the Dems money. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #87

And I will support with honor and workhard for the one that wins the primary LynneSin Apr 2015 #93

That's a very hard truth. delrem Apr 2015 #94

says it all, doesn't it? nt antigop Apr 2015 #96

inevitable Hillary is inevitable warrprayer Apr 2015 #98

Oh for crying out loud...stop picking on poor Hillary Clinton davidpdx Apr 2015 #99

Kicked! ibewlu606 Apr 2015 #101

Yep, she's a true champion of the middle class. Jester Messiah Apr 2015 #102

That is a stark difference.... blackspade Apr 2015 #103

Democrats selling souls for money to win. Got it. L0oniX Apr 2015 #106

Maybe we should just get Sothbey's to hold the auction. JEB Apr 2015 #107

I want everyone to read this. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #118

Well that's just awkward! Fearless Apr 2015 #119

No doubt, this is telling. lark Apr 2015 #123

KNR. DirkGently Apr 2015 #125

And I suspect that a comparison with Senator Warren's donors would show the same thing. totodeinhere Apr 2015 #133

Man you're messing up the popular fiction narrative Savannahmann Apr 2015 #135

That Sanders list certainly isn't from a major presidential campaign BainsBane Apr 2015 #137

Of course, there is absolutely, firmly, surely, no quid-pro-quo expected. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #139