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Kelvin Mace

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43. I am sorry

Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:10 AM

Apr 2015

what is your point in calling me Monica? Please, by all means, spell it out. Do you really want to explore Clinton horrendous misogyny?

Second, being hated by the right doesn't make you a liberal, since the right pretty much hates anyone who is not of their ilk, no matter how conservative. Ask Eric Cantor.

Clinton embraced anti-gay policies and institutionalized them into DADT and DOMA, kind of the same thing that was done by mainstream racists who wanted to temper their extreme comrades, so they invented Jim Crow.

Clinton embraced corporate desire to crush wages and enhance profits by embracing NAFTA. He also relaxed FDR-era laws such as Glass-Stegall so that Wall Street could legally gamble with people's money and take outrageous risks that eventually came home to roost.

Clinton embraced "welfare reform" and got it codified into law, dooming millions to a life of hardship.

Clinton was a bad president who looked good only by comparison to his execrable predecessors and successor. He was a GOP enabler who became fabulously wealthy by throwing the poor to the wolves.

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Bill Clinton was a great president [View all] Dpm12 Apr 2015 OP

1979 on is a pretty low bar. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #1

I'm not saying it isn't Dpm12 Apr 2015 #2

Clinton had fuck-all to do with creating those jobs, he got lucky. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2015 #3

So, he didn't do ANYTHING good? Dpm12 Apr 2015 #4

Reduced the military and balanced the budget, but that turns out to've been temporary Spider Jerusalem Apr 2015 #6

Temporary because George Bush pushed through his tax cuts, and Congress went along. pnwmom Apr 2015 #8

Bush Tax Cuts 1939 Apr 2015 #30

Another Rethug-myth promoter, I see. pnwmom Apr 2015 #47

Not at all 1939 Apr 2015 #53

No lasting legacy? Search up "Americorps" on Google. N/T Dpm12 Apr 2015 #60

You're buying into the Rethug myth. The economy didn't get better all by itself, or solely pnwmom Apr 2015 #7

THANK YOU for being, really, Dpm12 Apr 2015 #11

Well said, pnwmom. I hate "when the economy is strong under a Democrat he is just lucky." Krugman pampango Apr 2015 #21

HEY!!! We're supposed to let conservative memes rule the day here!! SCREW FACTS!! uponit7771 Apr 2015 #38

Exactly. jwirr Apr 2015 #50

says Fox News and most republicans? uponit7771 Apr 2015 #37

Say actual economists Spider Jerusalem Apr 2015 #48

I think we are on the wrong website, sincerely. This is ridiculous. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #52

We are on the correct site... the Rush of FUD gets to be overwhelming sometimes uponit7771 Apr 2015 #55

THANK YOU! Dpm12 Apr 2015 #59

No one was more enthusiastic about the Clinton Presidency than me, at the time. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #5

Agreed. bravenak Apr 2015 #51

Sure.... sendero Apr 2015 #9

https://morethanaminute.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/PINK-Rose-Colored-Glasses.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #10

So, he didn't do ANYTHING good? N/T Dpm12 Apr 2015 #12

Look, I'm all for social welfare, Dpm12 Apr 2015 #13

I'm with you. aikoaiko Apr 2015 #14

THANK YOU! Dpm12 Apr 2015 #16

I think DU has high standards and we love to criticize aikoaiko Apr 2015 #17

Gramm, Leach, Bliley and also The Telecommunications Act of 1996. mmonk Apr 2015 #15

And The Commodity Futures Modernization Act. mmonk Apr 2015 #23

His trade policies outweigh those 22 million jobs created. Motown_Johnny Apr 2015 #18

Repealing Glass-Steagall proved to be a disaster deutsey Apr 2015 #25

Best ever! MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #19

How was he for the Ivy League educated? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #32

Sure he was if you're a Wall Street banker or a corporate media executive tularetom Apr 2015 #20

Great president! NuclearDem Apr 2015 #22

+1...the biggest "stains" on his presidency had nothing to do with a dress and everything to do.... yourout Apr 2015 #27

Clinton settled for DADT after conservative Dems like Sam Nunn.... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #35

My wages went up under Clinton. Employers treated employees better because they B Calm Apr 2015 #24

Additional con Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #26

One of his greatest accomplishments (among many)... yallerdawg Apr 2015 #28

"Crushed"? Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #31

I'm going to remain polite, Monica... yallerdawg Apr 2015 #41

I am sorry Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #43

Isn't misogyny 'hatred of women'? yallerdawg Apr 2015 #46

Umm, so what you are saying is that Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #54

"As you see, the pros far outweigh the cons." Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #29

Easier to be an ex-president than a president Michael_wood Apr 2015 #33

Bill Clinton ain't running for President. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #34

No, he was a skilled president, not a great one hatrack Apr 2015 #36

...and in this thread we can see why Gore wasn't a shoe in... sigh... Don't allow FUD to kill DNC uponit7771 Apr 2015 #39

The best of the best...just like Hillary will be. ileus Apr 2015 #40

The Clinton Presidency: A Historic Era of Progress and Prosperity DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #42

You didn't put down the Wall Street bill fadedrose Apr 2015 #44

In some ways. And certainly an electrifying charisma well-suited to public office closeupready Apr 2015 #45

If you are a center-right Democrat, then he's your guy. nt. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #49

Bill was a great president, and was great for the country NM_Birder Apr 2015 #56

Certainly in the context of comparing him to the assclowns that directly preceded and bullwinkle428 Apr 2015 #57

I love Big Dog! He was smeared by Congress and dragged through the mud by the M$M. Rex Apr 2015 #58

Read this: Dpm12 Apr 2015 #61

And this: Dpm12 Apr 2015 #62