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TampaAnimusVortex

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144. I think your stretching the term just a tad.

Wed Apr 15, 2015, 02:34 PM

Apr 2015

Most people hearing the term "Shooter" would associate him with shooting someone, which he didn't - and using the method he did (shooting strait up in the air), he almost certainly would have never hit anyone if given a thousand bullets to try.

I am more curious though as to why your bias drives you to try and paint him the same as someone who actually is targeting individuals. This is like suggesting that a cook who might make someone a pufferfish meal (which if cooked in correctly, theoretically can kill someone) is equivalent to someone who deliberately injects rat poison into a cake. It's almost like your trying to trump up the issue to rationalize killing someone... Why would you resort to violence so easily?

How about we change that biased "shooter" to a more neutral term, say "idiot"? Then the question becomes, does being an idiot warrant being murdered? I personally say no.

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Cop Drives Right at Suspect, Runs Him Over in Disturbing Dash Cam Video [View all] one_voice Apr 2015 OP

Holy Shit! DJ13 Apr 2015 #1

He was armed with a rifle. I'd run his ass over too to save my own life. 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #2

meh Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #27

That's my take, to be honest. closeupready Apr 2015 #78

This is what happens when you "stand by" and don't respond to a maniac with a rifle 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #138

The one officer giving the command for other officers to "stand by" put them and the public at risk 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #139

If "Nam" Guy was black he would have been shot long before the shoot out, WillTwain Apr 2015 #158

The suspect went feral. eom Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #147

What's your badge number, officer? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #152

What is that supposed to mean, Scootaloo? 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #153

It means you just watched a cop smash into a man at ~60 MPH and your response is "FUCK YEAH! UNF!" Scootaloo Apr 2015 #155

Umm no. 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #160

Just watched that on tonight's news. WTF!!! In_The_Wind Apr 2015 #3

The suspect was armed with a gun. He fired a shot. LisaL Apr 2015 #9

The cop deserves to be prosecuted for assault with a dangerous weapon and assault with intent to morningfog Apr 2015 #11

Maybe in your imaginary world, but not in this one. LisaL Apr 2015 #14

Why do you have to be rude? morningfog Apr 2015 #16

He chose to stop an armed gunman who already shot his gun without killing this gunman. LisaL Apr 2015 #18

Yeah. Just mangle the shit out of him. elias49 Apr 2015 #24

"Chose to stop" = Run him the fuck over at high speed... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #79

Your precious suspect is alive. Instead of being dead, which he would be, if he LisaL Apr 2015 #94

Obviously...because everyone that gets shot dies right??.. truebrit71 Apr 2015 #106

The Cop could of shot him instead. FarPoint Apr 2015 #100

I'm not a big fan of cops sammythecat Apr 2015 #77

I have to agree. Marr Apr 2015 #80

Why would it 'almost certainly mean killing him'? truebrit71 Apr 2015 #107

Because there's no safe place to shoot someone? Marr Apr 2015 #116

"Shoot to wound" is a fantasy indicating that someone watches too many cop shows. 11 Bravo Apr 2015 #118

Huge arteries run down the legs Jim Beard Apr 2015 #129

I know. I'm waiting for someone to post "Why didn't they ... 11 Bravo Apr 2015 #143

Nah, the best fantasy is a cop and armed suspect staring down barrels of guns... Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #149

How could he descalate this situation? yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #154

I'd think an imaginary world consists of only two possibilities-- killing him or running him down. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #137

+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #28

Y'all may hate me for sayin-I have no problem with the tactic Boxerfan Apr 2015 #4

It stopped him quickly and he is still alive. Kablooie Apr 2015 #5

Awesome!! DarknessFalls Apr 2015 #6

This seems totally justified. LisaL Apr 2015 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author aikoaiko Apr 2015 #8

Here's the video... MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #10

Thank you... one_voice Apr 2015 #15

The audio is significant - the car closest to him was saying 'stand off' muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #22

No. The driver was telling Evergreen Emerald Apr 2015 #37

He said the guy driving the car was given to okay to run him over with his vehicle? Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #58

The chief? Evergreen Emerald Apr 2015 #60

I found the interview Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #61

I am not sure what you mean Evergreen Emerald Apr 2015 #66

Exactly. This was a very bad situation that was on the verge of getting worse. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #68

There are 2 sections of video muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #67

I can't believe these responses. The cop ran over the guy on purpose. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #12

He actually shot the gun. LisaL Apr 2015 #13

OMG Haha! "...must come down" elias49 Apr 2015 #23

why is that funny to you? Do you think a bullet fired in the air goes into orbit or something? Takket Apr 2015 #31

Good grief. Stop the silly. Not worth more than nt elias49 Apr 2015 #34

Please.... CherokeeDem Apr 2015 #71

Of course it's possible... just not very probable. TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #86

There was a guy recently killed sitting outside his home on New Years. LisaL Apr 2015 #96

Who said it was impossible? TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #98

Well, I guess police should have given the suspect some more chances to shoot his gun. LisaL Apr 2015 #103

Better to shoot everyone in the area... TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #104

Bullets in the air isn't the real issue Jim Beard Apr 2015 #134

I think your stretching the term just a tad. TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #144

I have no problem with a sense of proportionality.... CherokeeDem Apr 2015 #105

Mythbusters showed exactly how hard it is. TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #121

I saw that episode of Mythbusters.... CherokeeDem Apr 2015 #123

No, your right, no one was claiming that... TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #146

No... CherokeeDem Apr 2015 #162

Happens more than you think dbackjon Apr 2015 #130

I'll take my chances with the shooters over the police. TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #145

I agree with everything you said. It's amazing how polce brutatlity is justified and defended. morningfog Apr 2015 #17

They would have been justified with shooting him at that point because he was in a residential area LisaL Apr 2015 #19

No - entirely out of proportion to the crime. TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #92

life savers DustyJoe Apr 2015 #76

Oh please. They tried to kill him. They did not try to save his life. morningfog Apr 2015 #120

+1 a2liberal Apr 2015 #20

Same here. nt elias49 Apr 2015 #25

Amazing, isn't it? MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #21

Bingo. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #29

A tranquilizer gun? Very bad idea. DetlefK Apr 2015 #33

Sorry, but you are naive in what you think should have happened Lurks Often Apr 2015 #38

That is unbelievable ann--- Apr 2015 #49

Stop watching TV Lurks Often Apr 2015 #54

In addition to the previous poster telling you other reasons you're wrong mythology Apr 2015 #81

And how many shots can an armed man get off justhanginon Apr 2015 #142

Quite a few, here is a documented incident Lurks Often Apr 2015 #161

More old Colts shot out of hands -- look, Ma, no blood! -- in The Lone Ranger! Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #150

I agree ann--- Apr 2015 #46

It seriously blows my mind... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #108

Let's make this quite clear: the cop in question disobeyed orders. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #26

No, you are mistaken Evergreen Emerald Apr 2015 #36

If you think that the cop driving the car was following orders... Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #56

Exactly! ann--- Apr 2015 #59

Again: he was not told to stand down Evergreen Emerald Apr 2015 #62

He wasn't told to stand down!! Just to "stand off"! That is the difference here we should be GummyBearz Apr 2015 #128

You are right ann--- Apr 2015 #42

That is not what happened Evergreen Emerald Apr 2015 #63

I'm talking about the FIRST ann--- Apr 2015 #74

Interesting comment thread. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #30

No, it doesn't matter the weapon. This is akin to the Tamir Rice shooting. morningfog Apr 2015 #44

They could have shot from ann--- Apr 2015 #47

Really stop watching tv... Historic NY Apr 2015 #82

SKY KING!! Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #151

OMG ann--- Apr 2015 #75

Only in self defense?? B2G Apr 2015 #84

Where were the people? ann--- Apr 2015 #88

Please explain your comment above B2G Apr 2015 #89

I think you misplaced this comment. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #87

I'd like some more details on this before I pass judgement Takket Apr 2015 #32

He fired the weapon just moments before he was run over. boston bean Apr 2015 #35

Is that what they teach in police academies in Arizona? ann--- Apr 2015 #43

You would have preferred bullets piercing his internal organs? nt boston bean Apr 2015 #102

you are ok with broken ribs piercing his internal organs? nt uppityperson Apr 2015 #110

I'm ok with the action taken. boston bean Apr 2015 #115

so no piercing internal organs with a bullet, but with his broken ribs is ok. thanks for clarifying. uppityperson Apr 2015 #132

Uh no. I'm not sure what it is you think you boston bean Apr 2015 #133

Only a few minutes ann--- Apr 2015 #50

He has a RIFLE that he has shot once. Are_grits_groceries Apr 2015 #39

You cannot say for sure if ann--- Apr 2015 #41

A taser or tear gas vs a rifle? Action_Patrol Apr 2015 #70

If you were having lunch down the street and ended up in the middle of a police Marr Apr 2015 #83

So what? TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #95

Cannot believe that this officer ann--- Apr 2015 #40

He will probably get an award for saving the community and lives yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #159

Holy moly! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #45

America is ann--- Apr 2015 #48

It looks like MAD MAX revisited. Summary justice Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #51

Violent crime has dropped to 50-year lows. These are "Days of [ratings-driven] Dread." Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #157

Disturbing video and disturbing comments Blue_Adept Apr 2015 #52

He didn't just run into him, he ran him down liberal N proud Apr 2015 #53

He intended to kill the guy sorefeet Apr 2015 #55

Recently, some men were shooting behind my son's elementary school My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #57

and if they had not left, but instead fired shots Evergreen Emerald Apr 2015 #64

They were firing shots My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #69

Each unique situation Evergreen Emerald Apr 2015 #73

There is no situation My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #85

Correct tool in this situation would be a gun. LisaL Apr 2015 #93

If the correct response is to shoot the suspect My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #111

shooting at him would have been too dangerous TorchTheWitch Apr 2015 #156

Here's the interview with the chief (it may be posted elsewhere up thread) Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #65

I'm sorry romanic Apr 2015 #72

Criticizing law enforcement My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #90

At that time, the cop would be justified at shooting the suspect. LisaL Apr 2015 #91

Then he should have shot the suspect My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #109

Why? Because that's what they do on tv? Marr Apr 2015 #119

The man was on foot My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #124

Wow. Marr Apr 2015 #131

I am not going to agree My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #135

What do you suggest they have done? B2G Apr 2015 #136

No, he wants a gunfight in a residential area jberryhill Apr 2015 #163

running into someone with a day moving car = "non-lethal force"? I'd say tell that to my cousin uppityperson Apr 2015 #113

Steeeeeerike! VScott Apr 2015 #97

Nice disregard phil89 Apr 2015 #101

Probably suffering from a few bruises and broken bones too, I reckon. VScott Apr 2015 #112

And you have a fixation on phil89 Apr 2015 #125

Like some others here pipi_k Apr 2015 #99

What I would do phil89 Apr 2015 #114

It's so easy pipi_k Apr 2015 #164

Pee Ess... pipi_k Apr 2015 #165

The video is quite harsh. Jenoch Apr 2015 #117

Better he gets stopped then madville Apr 2015 #122

We should definitely phil89 Apr 2015 #126

Well we know now that he madville Apr 2015 #166

I have mixed feelings about this. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #127

For those that contend: It's impossible to approach a guy with a gun with less than lethal force My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #140

I don't know if anyone pipi_k Apr 2015 #168

Eh, I suppose they could have gunned him down and had Calista241 Apr 2015 #141

It's quite possible his actions could have saved a number of lives. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #148

The officers probably also knew that he had madville Apr 2015 #167