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upaloopa

(11,417 posts) Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:12 PM Apr 2015

2016 may be the last time I get to vote for [View all]

a Dem for president. I will be 70 in 2016.
If we lose the White House we will lose the SCOTUS too. The Kochs will own the federal government.
I know things are not as progressive as they should be. Hillary isn't as progressive as we would like.
We all know that. But if she or someone else is the candidate we need to work together to elect them. Losing is not an option!
Stand on principle if you need to but just be aware that 2016 is not going to be an election where your principles are on the ballot. In a few races there will be progressive candidates. Vote for them. Kamala Harris in CA is a good example.
Work your asses off for them.
But I hope at some point you get off the purity kick and realize that you build your dreams one step at a time. Look long term.
I hope younger Dem's here see a progressive movement take place after I've gone. But remember it takes winning in 2016 for that to happen.
Don't take yourself out of the game because your favorite players aren't on the field. For our sakes and our kids sakes, winning is everything.

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2016 may be the last time I get to vote for [View all] upaloopa Apr 2015 OP

Amen! leftofcool Apr 2015 #1

My mom lived to 90, God Bless her... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #2

Yeah! that marym625 Apr 2015 #5

In the primary marym625 Apr 2015 #3

This is my age talking but I like to think it is upaloopa Apr 2015 #12

The difference being marym625 Apr 2015 #19

Bah...70 is the new 50 B2G Apr 2015 #4

That's what the guy on Craigslist keeps telling the women. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2015 #27

That's how we got here. jeff47 Apr 2015 #6

+a kazillion! marym625 Apr 2015 #9

Sounds nice but you are wrong. It takes center right money to win upaloopa Apr 2015 #13

If it 'takes center right money to win' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #42

Which is why CA's governor is Meg Whitman and not Jerry Brown. jeff47 Apr 2015 #55

I hope you are well. MADem Apr 2015 #7

Like that Johnny Cash song upaloopa Apr 2015 #14

Wise words. Scurrilous Apr 2015 #8

+1 It really is a long-term process, often requiring small steps. But set-backs are guaranteed Hoyt Apr 2015 #10

I'm 71 and will vote for my principles. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #11

Repeating other people's words is nice upaloopa Apr 2015 #15

Should I be discreet and not vote for my principles? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #16

It's your vote do what you want with it. upaloopa Apr 2015 #17

Good. So will I vote for my principles. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #18

Well I don't think your principles will be on the ballot. upaloopa Apr 2015 #21

We'll see. I expect they will. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #37

What else do you have? paulbibeau Apr 2015 #58

I don't think there were parties when Adams made that statement. The names of all the candidates jwirr Apr 2015 #25

+1000 heaven05 Apr 2015 #20

I am 76 and plan to be around RebelOne Apr 2015 #22

thanks for the perspective oopaloopa! KnR secondwind Apr 2015 #23

I just realized at 73 I am likely to be in the same boat. We need to win this one on every level we jwirr Apr 2015 #24

I am not saying we should not push for upaloopa Apr 2015 #26

Yes, I hear you. There are two goals here that both need to be met if possible. First we need to jwirr Apr 2015 #29

upaloopa, you make a good point. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #28

Yes. Relax. Anything can happen between lovemydog Apr 2015 #30

I think I don't need to relax much more than I am. upaloopa Apr 2015 #35

There is a counterargument. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #39

Amen. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #57

Sometimes it's really true... world wide wally Apr 2015 #31

Yes Thespian2 Apr 2015 #32

You and me both, upaloopa. I'm only a few years younger than you, but... Hekate Apr 2015 #33

I disagree whole heartedly olddots Apr 2015 #34

Why not wait to see what other Democrats declare, and then who actually wins 99th_Monkey Apr 2015 #36

I meant to speak to people who aren't going to support upaloopa Apr 2015 #38

"I know things aren't as progressive (and) Hillary isn't as progressive as we would like" 99th_Monkey Apr 2015 #40

We aren't going to have a progressive upaloopa Apr 2015 #41

I know , I know 99th_Monkey Apr 2015 #43

Get real! Even Bernie Sanders said what upaloopa Apr 2015 #44

I guess my point is 99th_Monkey Apr 2015 #60

+1. People who claim to be "compromising" now are doing nothing of the sort. Marr Apr 2015 #59

If the GOP win in 2016, there will be no nation to host a president. The complete dissolution of the freshwest Apr 2015 #45

It depends. Savannahmann Apr 2015 #46

Time outs. joshcryer Apr 2015 #47

Leave your legacy, upaloopa�. MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #48

K&R B Calm Apr 2015 #49

Funny how I draw the opposite conclusions. 99Forever Apr 2015 #50

What will the legacy of our choices be? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #51

"Political expediency?" 99Forever Apr 2015 #54

Lombardi always regretted saying that. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #52

Every time I cast a vote LWolf Apr 2015 #53

ssdd. PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #56