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F4lconF16

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80. His fucking principles?

Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:27 PM

Apr 2015

You are not helping that one bit by working against our winning with your f...ng principles!

Fuck principles!

Fuck taking a stand! Fuck helping the poor! Fuck peace! Fuck stopping the prison complex! Fuck the climate! Fuck doing what's right!

Fuck principles!

I want our side to win!

...

This everything wrong with the Democratic Party. No thanks. I will stand by my principles until the day I die.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] paulbibeau Apr 2015 OP

Would we prefer the top 5 give their money to Republicans again or to Hillary? leftofcool Apr 2015 #1

Here. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #4

Frankly, Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #5

I have mixed feelings on my answer to that... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #9

Unaccountable money in politics does concern me but we have what we have. leftofcool Apr 2015 #12

We will get the establishment approved Democrat Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #15

Yes. "Establishment approved." That's just the right phrase. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #32

And to paraphrase George Carlin, the Estabishment is a club hifiguy Apr 2015 #45

Yep, Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #118

Not if she isn't elected she won't be... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #87

Jeb Bush's doughy Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #95

She is "chosen" because 75% of Democrats support her.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #105

And at one time Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #111

Don't those names just jump out at you? paulbibeau Apr 2015 #113

They have Emily's List in common Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #115

So? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #114

Maybe she could call Elizabeth Warren and find out Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #116

Elizabeth ain't running....and perhaps that is why... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #117

Her not running has nothing to do Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #131

lol...Hillary working for us!...haha...good one! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #126

Well, it's theoretically possible Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #130

Frankly, I think warp drive is a helluva lot more possible. Can't say that about Elizabeth or Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #138

I would prefer the shove their dirty money.... JEB Apr 2015 #107

the real question is what do those top 5 think they are purchasing with their donations...? mike_c Apr 2015 #139

You really don't understand how your logic is flawed, do you? nt. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #2

! DeSwiss Apr 2015 #40

I know. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #43

What is the sound of one hand donating? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #58

Hillary is rich. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #47

but she wasn't always.....Now Jeb Bush....ALWAYS VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #106

Didn't the Lehman Brothers go out of business in 2008? FSogol Apr 2015 #3

Yes, the figures are over her career. That's why the numbers aren't there for 2012. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #6

Cool stats, bro! FSogol Apr 2015 #16

You're hiding behind your emoticons. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #26

No, just laughing at lame attempts to divide. FSogol Apr 2015 #28

#Accurate Agschmid Apr 2015 #34

Fair enough. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #36

Lehman Brothers gave Hillary and Romney zero dollars last year. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #7

So make your statement don't leave it there. upaloopa Apr 2015 #8

The numbers are disturbing. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #18

It bothers me that the purity team has their upaloopa Apr 2015 #31

I bother the other side plenty. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #37

If we don't win in 2016 they will bother you upaloopa Apr 2015 #44

Fair enough. But I still won't ignore the facts. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #48

Nobody is asking you to ignore them. Just upaloopa Apr 2015 #63

No. The pushback is pretty clear here. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #65

His fucking principles? F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #80

Yeah, that's a good response too. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #84

It's an obscenity that we allow businesses to donate money to political candidates. arcane1 Apr 2015 #10

Yes. Yes it is. DeadLetterOffice Apr 2015 #30

Those donors support everyone running for President. MineralMan Apr 2015 #11

That's why I included the numbers. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #14

And, in all likelihood, when the repubs settle on a candidate onenote Apr 2015 #20

Yes, I saw that, and you're right. MineralMan Apr 2015 #22

There is a larger campaign finance point here. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #24

Yes. Corporate money should not be involved in electoral politics. MineralMan Apr 2015 #27

Your refusal to have Hillary outrage is inexcusable Johonny Apr 2015 #17

I rarely have outrage about things like politics. MineralMan Apr 2015 #23

"Those donors support everyone running for President." MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #70

Yes. But the ratios also show they supported Romney more. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #73

UniParty? That's bogus, silly, and misguided. MineralMan Apr 2015 #75

Several also gave to POTUS 2012..too Historic NY Apr 2015 #13

And in Warren's top list, two of the larger law firms that service the financial industry stevenleser Apr 2015 #19

Believe me, I think there's a larger campaign finance point here too... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #21

Not one bank in her top 10 list LittleBlue Apr 2015 #55

No, just the folks that defend the banks when anyone tries to take them to task for something. stevenleser Apr 2015 #59

"The organizations themselves did not donate" jberryhill Apr 2015 #104

I know. But then there's a reason they group this stuff together. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #112

"The organizations themselves did not donate." Nine Apr 2015 #25

Yes, that's what they do. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #29

No, it's not safe to say that at all. Nine Apr 2015 #35

Think what you want. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #64

You claimed they were coordinating on behalf of Citigroup. Nine Apr 2015 #82

I'm going to make an assertion... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #83

You keep changing the claim. Nine Apr 2015 #89

I'm not changing the claim. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #91

I am not going to bring a knife to a gun fight DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #33

Don't hate the player, hate the game. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #38

Thank you for that. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #39

Pure poetry. By the way... JaneyVee Apr 2015 #42

That's very good. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #46

Don't blame a player for playing by the rules of a rigged game and triumphing DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #78

and....? spanone Apr 2015 #41

This is an absolutely corrupted nation -- down to the core. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #49

Yes. As an American and a human being it upsets me. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #50

Which is why they are fine with Hillary or any Republican winning AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #51

OH MY GOD WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL DAY? paulbibeau Apr 2015 #52

DU can be a tough room sometimes. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #68

What's bothering me is how soon the goddamn coronation started. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #71

Well, that is disconcerting. CentralMass Apr 2015 #53

I KNOW! paulbibeau Apr 2015 #57

lmao LittleBlue Apr 2015 #54

I think it's you who aren't hearing BainsBane Apr 2015 #56

Nope, nope, nope, nope. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #61

hardly a strawman BainsBane Apr 2015 #77

A little perspective, please. You can't eat, buy clothes, buy hardware, shoes, furniture libdem4life Apr 2015 #60

That's pretty meaningless. You're looking at donors by employer. Unvanguard Apr 2015 #62

Someone else on this thread agrees with you. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #67

They're giving money because they're rich. Unvanguard Apr 2015 #72

I notice you don't tell us how much money they have given her, only their rank dsc Apr 2015 #66

You're whistling past the graveyard. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #69

No I teach math for a living dsc Apr 2015 #74

This sentence... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #81

I assumed you were comparing Hillary's presidential contributers now dsc Apr 2015 #97

You're using garbled syntax so it's hard to understand what you're saying... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #100

No it isn't dsc Apr 2015 #110

First of all... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #119

Also... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #120

but it isn't someone dsc Apr 2015 #121

We've covered that. We disagree. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #122

Find a candiate they have not donated to. liberal N proud Apr 2015 #76

I won't vote for anyone who gets money from someone edhopper Apr 2015 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #85

They do. Look at the actual numbers though. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #86

"What does that say?" She's cheap. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #94

As a gesture to the 1% I'm sure Hillary will send it back with a FU Very Much note. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #88

I think B. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #132

Donations to Obama in 08 justiceischeap Apr 2015 #90

Now, we're opening the can of worms... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #92

You're still engaging in the fallacy of composition. Unvanguard Apr 2015 #96

I am interpreting it that way, yes. You don't. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #98

There's another source of information we can tap here... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #99

Let me put it another way... paulbibeau Apr 2015 #93

I am still going to vote for her. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #101

So am I. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #102

Whatever. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #103

"Whatever." The devastating rhetorical gambit of 13 year-olds everywhere. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #108

Considering your7 to 0 hidden post from this morning I don't think you are pretending. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #109

I do not care if every single thing I write for DU is hidden. paulbibeau Apr 2015 #123

Of this I have no doubt. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Apr 2015 #129

"Play the ball where it lies" This is where it lies. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #125

Many companies and political action committees give to both party's candidates. Hoyt Apr 2015 #127

I'm thrilled they are giving their money to Hillary. I will vote for Hillary every single day of OregonBlue Apr 2015 #128

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #133

I'll give you a 5 on a 10 point scale. nt sufrommich Apr 2015 #134

Prepare for it to continue. mimi85 Apr 2015 #135

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #136

Sux when you find out the investment bankers own everyone, doesn't it? Rex Apr 2015 #137