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WillTwain

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72. r o r, here is my take,

Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:49 PM

Apr 2015

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Breaking the backs of the rich is the heavy lifting. Social justice just moves ahead with a life of its own. Granted, leadership help, but at the arc of social justice always leans left.

You want to go after the powerful, the rich, it takes guts. Guts like we have only seen a few times in the last century. Once Obama got elected, and looked into the cold dead eyes of capitalism from the front row, he knew this was too much for him and he rolled over.

The FDR's, LBJ's and Paul Wellstone's of the world are a rare breed. They do not care what happens to them in the fight for economic justice. Look at Huey Long, killed in office.

Elizabeth and Bernie seem to have some of that reckless abandon. Hillary?

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Obama no longer cares whether the GOP is outraged [View all] n2doc Apr 2015 OP

Too bad he didn't have this attitude 5-6 years ago. muntrv Apr 2015 #1

I would like to know why he didn't. nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #5

It's Too Late, Baby. WillTwain Apr 2015 #64

I understand but I am curious what happened. Why now? nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #68

r o r, here is my take, WillTwain Apr 2015 #72

My take isn't much different. Once in office I think Gen Clapper had a nice friendly rhett o rick Apr 2015 #87

He is not a fighter. WillTwain Apr 2015 #89

Pretty much my take... sendero Apr 2015 #96

+1, with some caveats F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #91

Good Discussion, I give FDR more credit than you, but whatever. WillTwain Apr 2015 #99

This doesn't get said enough! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #101

No longer running for reelection. nt dorkulon Apr 2015 #82

Too bad he didn't have this attitude 5-6 years ago. AlbertCat Apr 2015 #6

I agree Lunabell Apr 2015 #13

To me that's the big difference between Obama and Bill Clinton AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #22

There is one other difference you are forgetting, a real big one NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #76

Clinton also had the line-item veto for a good portion of his term. Utopian Leftist Apr 2015 #78

He had it for two years at most. dflprincess Apr 2015 #86

Obama's position mehrrh Apr 2015 #29

Well-reasoned and fair analysis, mehrrh. slumcamper Apr 2015 #35

Agree. He had to try to work through a traditional process, which he believed in and wiggs Apr 2015 #37

Thank you, and welcome to DU! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2015 #52

sorry but Skittles Apr 2015 #55

we really didn't mehrrh Apr 2015 #63

DID I REALLY THINK THEY WOULD DESTROY THE NATION? Skittles Apr 2015 #65

Agree. Not to mention, they can't stop telling us how govt doesn't work, so of course they want cui bono Apr 2015 #92

the idea that Obama "didn't know" how fucked up repukes are Skittles Apr 2015 #94

And remember winetourdriver Apr 2015 #61

Then that person should NOT run for President. bvar22 Apr 2015 #74

Hoover For Freddie Apr 2015 #75

I understand it too, mehrrh. President Obama got his ACA through, the Economy on the right track Cha Apr 2015 #62

So true. hifiguy Apr 2015 #41

He did. Just not toward who you might think. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2015 #46

no kidding. I think these are satire pieces. now with 44 democratic senators and 188 Doctor_J Apr 2015 #49

exactly fucking right Skittles Apr 2015 #54

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #67

5-6 years ago? yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #80

Wait... cui bono Apr 2015 #93

Because good people try to do the right thing first IronLionZion Apr 2015 #83

His voters abandoned him in the 2010 elections and made him a lame duck. onehandle Apr 2015 #85

Only Obama voters? No sour grapes from Hillary fans? LiberalElite Apr 2015 #95

I am an Obama voter. I vote in every election. onehandle Apr 2015 #98

Yup... Helen Borg Apr 2015 #97

And, of course, they are enthusiastically helping him with the TPP. nt djean111 Apr 2015 #2

All too true Populist_Prole Apr 2015 #4

May the TPP isn't the ONLY thing that fucking matters? cheapdate Apr 2015 #36

So only social issues matter? Phlem Apr 2015 #44

We have abortion rights across the country? WOW. bettyellen Apr 2015 #56

Yes, It IS the only thing that matters now Populist_Prole Apr 2015 #90

So why did he needlessly cave on Iran after his victory? Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #3

Because a sufficient number of Democrats in Congress didn't have his back. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #7

It would be interesting to see how close to the 67 number in the senate they were AND... stevenleser Apr 2015 #9

He should have employed the bully pulpit AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #24

And Dems wondering why we don't contribute more! DUH! nt Duval Apr 2015 #43

My understanding is some dems in congress caved and his veto will be overridden corkhead Apr 2015 #8

Because the Constitution gives the Senate the authority of advise and consent. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #53

Our President has a very elegant way of saying "Fuck 'em!" calimary Apr 2015 #10

Agree, enough already! mountain grammy Apr 2015 #23

Did he ever? nt B2G Apr 2015 #11

Jan. 2009, the ugly-assed turdle-man from..... wolfie001 Apr 2015 #12

The executive is not granted all the power that Obama is using, not by the Constitution, in my JDPriestly Apr 2015 #14

Very glad to see this. I don't understand how he didn't see their hate for him years ago. C Moon Apr 2015 #15

Oh he saw it all right... busterbrown Apr 2015 #20

I think he didn't do any of this earlier... abakan Apr 2015 #31

And his approach was the image of him.. busterbrown Apr 2015 #48

And everyone cheers.... until the shoe is on the other foot. BKH70041 Apr 2015 #16

Because of the separation of powers clauses in the US Constitution: JDPriestly Apr 2015 #17

+10^10^100 a lot of unfortunate comments here as I noted downthread. nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #26

It's not a treaty underpants Apr 2015 #27

yeah, right..... KG Apr 2015 #18

Yeah, he should've stopped caring on Jan 21, 2009. 47of74 Apr 2015 #19

He couldn't fadedrose Apr 2015 #21

and how did that complete capitulation work? Doctor_J Apr 2015 #51

complete BS Skittles Apr 2015 #66

His supporters love to blame the Republicans, But WillTwain Apr 2015 #81

A lot of unfortunate comments here regarding "why Obama didnt do this before". He's not supposed to stevenleser Apr 2015 #25

If the insurgents are going to now try to stage a coup, then a counter-coup is only logical. Timing is Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #28

+ a few billion billion BKH70041 Apr 2015 #30

Our best hope is that the Republican Party loses big in 2016 and collapses shortly thereafter. stevenleser Apr 2015 #32

'I really hope we all don't have to try to live through that.' Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #39

Should have started that policy in January, 2009 dbackjon Apr 2015 #33

this article is from July of last year n/t Enrique Apr 2015 #34

Now, let me see...how else can I make their heads explode! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #38

If PRO is the opposite of CON ... staggerleem Apr 2015 #40

Great post, n2doc. I also am Duval Apr 2015 #42

About time. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #45

Cut him some slack. He was/is the first Black President, hated like no other in current libdem4life Apr 2015 #47

Not recent events...since last November imo. Rex Apr 2015 #50

And he NEVER cared when his Liberal base was outraged...[n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #57

+1 L0oniX Apr 2015 #100

The GOP have been asses and Obama is correct to ignore their views Gothmog Apr 2015 #58

Exactly, Steve Benen.. I like the way he writes! President Obama on the Congressional gop.. Cha Apr 2015 #59

I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into workinclasszero Apr 2015 #60

The proper attitude when dealing with knuckledragger Republicans....... Enthusiast Apr 2015 #69

Dammit! Why can't I rec this a 2nd and 3rd time!?!?! Rex Apr 2015 #70

Awesome Mr President madokie Apr 2015 #71

What took him so long? He wasted years and progressive ground on point Apr 2015 #73

Totally on board with the President on this subject. Utopian Leftist Apr 2015 #77

GOPoutrage! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #79

Day late, dollar short. blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #84

He probably needs to look into the privatization of some of his agencies that can keep the economy lonestarnot Apr 2015 #88