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In reply to the discussion: Half of Idaho's wolves gone in a year, thanks to Obama's Sect'y of the Interior [View all]
LAGC
(5,330 posts)57. I concede, you are correct.
But my point still stands. We survived for nearly 70 years after they were extirpated before they were artificially brought back and reintroduced. We got along just fine without them.
So I just don't see the pressing need to bend-over backwards to save them all now.
I just don't see why the survival of the wolves is more important than quality of life for us humans.
Just like with the beavers. I know, they're just "doing their thing" and building dams everywhere, but they fuck with the water-ways and disrupt irrigation for farming, I have no problem if farmers shoot them on sight as well if they are being pests. I've shot a few myself up at my uncle's cabin in rural Idaho, when they were flooding the place.
Some of these "animal rights" extremists truly baffle me.
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Half of Idaho's wolves gone in a year, thanks to Obama's Sect'y of the Interior [View all]
villager
May 2012
OP
So long as there's one teabagger in Idaho, there won't be room for even one wolf here
jmowreader
May 2012
#11
Damn, we'd better get rid of all environmental laws, then, lest we piss off the destroyers!
villager
May 2012
#94
for me, it was the selection of Salazar-the-rancher for Interior that signaled "business as usual"
villager
May 2012
#16
Why don't we just wipe out all wild life? This way human profiteers would not have anything more
sabrina 1
May 2012
#53
You probably never WILL hear a liberal person say something like that, either.
Judi Lynn
May 2012
#24
What a disgusting, horrific post. Welfare ranchers with invasive cow species are destroying
villager
May 2012
#17
actually, one reason coyote populations have expanded is because we killed off the wolves
villager
May 2012
#93
The reason kudzu is considered an invasive species is because it did not originally come
Jamastiene
May 2012
#27
i may be missing something but I don't see where it's said they died off naturally.
Kaleva
May 2012
#34
Yet we somehow managed without them for 70 years before they were artificially brought back?
LAGC
May 2012
#37
Humans can do fine without the wolves but other species of animals and plants suffered.
Kaleva
May 2012
#40
Didn't large wildfires in the early 1900's create a suitable habitat for elk to move into.
Kaleva
May 2012
#42
Whether the habitat was altered by fire or not, the elk herd was introduced by man
IDemo
May 2012
#44
Correction - the elk population at that time was in the panhandle and the eastern part of the state
IDemo
May 2012
#49
Homicide rate in US would plummet if all victims were listed as dieing of natural causes.
Kaleva
May 2012
#72
You've got to admit though that most Idahoans aren't that sympathetic to the wolf problem.
LAGC
May 2012
#51
"Their devastation to live-stock and wild game populations cannot be understated."
Rob H.
May 2012
#63
No. Sarah Palin has NEVER been right about anything unless it was a mistake.
truebrit71
May 2012
#115
We don't need high-powered rifles from helicopters. Spears and bows & arrows are quite sufficient.
Johnny Rico
May 2012
#89
Wolves...like any wild animals...are renewable resources which need to be managed.
Johnny Rico
May 2012
#74
I'm speaking of some of the posts in this thread, not the letter in the OP.
Johnny Rico
May 2012
#91
I never made any such claim. I will assert that it's cherry-picked to make wolves look adorable.
Johnny Rico
May 2012
#142
No -- not every other species on earth is a "renewable" "resource" for Lord God Man.
villager
May 2012
#92
I'm sure our canned hunt fan understands just how much we've lost and what it is still at risk.
ellisonz
May 2012
#120
I love science. Best tool ever invented to investigate and utilize the universe.
Johnny Rico
May 2012
#124
Isn't it funny how the term "fully exploited" is used instead of "fully utilized".
Johnny Rico
May 2012
#122
Given that *millions* of species have gone extinct in the last 4 billion years,
Johnny Rico
May 2012
#159
The one that supports the middle-class, Heinlein-reading lifestyle to which you are accustomed
villager
May 2012
#131
I'm already eating less meat, and buying less new stuff than you. Match that, instead of
villager
May 2012
#134
we should quit industrializing cows and chickens, for one thing, and viewing them as "products"
villager
May 2012
#160
The appointment of Ken Salazar to interior has been worse than James Watt..
truebrit71
May 2012
#106