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In reply to the discussion: Obama no longer cares whether the GOP is outraged [View all]F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)I disagree that FDR was an incredible president. He was the elite reaction to the socialist movement, which would have gone far further. He was the capitalist response to a system that was on the verge of failing. This isn't to say he wasn't a fantastic president by modern standards, but just that he was part of that political/economic elite and acted as such. His reforms went just far enough to stabilize the system for another 70+ years, but he did not solve any of the core problems that the two party system depends on for it's survival. LBJ helped further the establishment as well. This is not to say that what they did wasn't fantastic, but it's important to recognize that they weren't necessarily doing it for the people--they were doing it to keep a broken system alive. We have been closer to revolution in the last century than most people realize.
But otherwise I agree. All three of the names you mentioned still have my respect, and Paul Wellstone and Huey long in particular. Same goes with Bernie. Warren has the fire, but she still holds to the capitalist democracy, which, in my opinion, is non-functional, either short or long term. Still would vote and support her in a heartbeat.
And yes, Clinton has none of that. Same for Obama. As much as he has said in the last few months, it is far too little, far too late. We are up against enemies of literally unimaginable scale. The human brain can't process the numbers when interpreting just how much power they have. And unfortunately, both of our front-runners in the last 8 years have been corporatists through and through. For me, at least, that isn't good enough.