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Atman

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41. The solution isn't necessarily elimination of the "red tape."

Thu Apr 16, 2015, 08:55 AM

Apr 2015

For instance, maybe you're starting a manufacturing business in an old warehouse alongside a river. I live in New England, we have lots of old converted mill buildings with discharge pipes which run straight into local streams and rivers. So someone buying the building might have to deal with "red tape" to prove that his business will not be discharging hazardous waste via the pipes. PIA, "Heck no! I wouldn't do that!" But how do know for sure? Inspections, impact statements, business procedures. "Red tape." Slows things down, and I'm sure the guy just wants to get his business up and running without all the paperwork and hassles.

So what is the solution? Eliminate all regulation and just trust the business? How has that worked out for us so far? Maybe a solution is to stop cutting taxes and eliminating the funds which pay for inspectors and paper pushers, make the process of regulation more efficient, not simply eliminate regulations and hope for the best.

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Confused Hillary accidently utters line from Goldman Sachs speech while speaking in public. [View all] Scuba Apr 2015 OP

Please post the speech you are referring to Renew Deal Apr 2015 #1

Speech? More like Jamie Dimon's lifestyle, the thieving bastard. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2015 #18

C'mon, she's just concerned about her son-in-law's hedge fund. tridim Apr 2015 #2

So you countenance lying? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #4

Uhm, no. tridim Apr 2015 #5

The Original Poster falsely claimed that Hillary Clinton was quoting Goldman Sachs, ergo: DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #6

The right hates Hillary. The fringe left hates Hillary... SidDithers Apr 2015 #10

I find lying about people , be they private or public persons, patently offensive... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #12

What lie? Scuba Apr 2015 #19

Let's do this slowly... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #27

The line would have been in Hillary's speech to Goldman Sachs, which was of course not public. Scuba Apr 2015 #30

Ah, the old "I was only joking" fall back... SidDithers Apr 2015 #38

scuba and I haven't agreed on a lot of things pipoman Apr 2015 #45

Come on, dude. This is deflection. Orsino Apr 2015 #49

So you are clairvoyant? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #39

I've TAUGHT satire... maddiemom Apr 2015 #52

You may have taught satire, but you haven't learned it. Scuba Apr 2015 #54

I've taught intuition. H2O Man Apr 2015 #62

UH...Misleading, more mean-spirited (although, yes, much satire comes from mean spiritedness) but maddiemom Apr 2015 #87

Your forgot the "thingy" in your zeal to critique Historic NY Apr 2015 #69

I took it as satire. This quote sounds like pandering to people who make more money when GoneFishin Apr 2015 #77

Some of us got it, Scuba. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2015 #78

So any/all concerns, worries, distrust.... daleanime Apr 2015 #17

Is that what I said?..nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #21

It was a question.... daleanime Apr 2015 #22

LOL. That wasn't a question... SidDithers Apr 2015 #24

So that wasn't my reaction to your post? daleanime Apr 2015 #28

If you want to ask me a question, ask an honest question... SidDithers Apr 2015 #35

"Do you really believe that any comment that isn't positive.... daleanime Apr 2015 #88

" So any/all concerns, worries, distrust.... is simply hatred? "... SidDithers Apr 2015 #89

In post #24 you said that wasn't a question.... daleanime Apr 2015 #90

Sid never answers anything druidity33 Apr 2015 #96

I noticed.... daleanime Apr 2015 #97

I'm neither, I am a Democrat and I don't hate anyone. tridim Apr 2015 #32

As we get further away from the quote falsely attributed to Secretary Of State Clinton DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #43

I would change "fringe left" to "center left"...just for accuracy... pipoman Apr 2015 #42

No, I think the statement is accurate as is...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #47

Some members here brand anything even slightly to the Left of Reagan.... bvar22 Apr 2015 #95

Oh hell, center left is now repubican lite. I'm a Social Dem, I guess that just makes me left. YOHABLO Apr 2015 #105

and the older imthevicar Apr 2015 #50

At least you're honest...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #51

And the adoring masses customerserviceguy Apr 2015 #106

Anything coming from Politico should be taken with a large grain of salt. still_one Apr 2015 #13

The quote is a direct quote from Senator Clinton. tridim Apr 2015 #25

Was she or was she not quoting Goldman Sachs DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #31

Don't care. tridim Apr 2015 #33

Well, that's a huge difference than saying she is quoting Goldman Sachs... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #34

Only you suggested she is quoting Goldman Sachs. Scuba Apr 2015 #56

I assume Clinton supporters are only pretending to be stupid. ieoeja Apr 2015 #75

It's disruption. Scuba Apr 2015 #86

In what context would this statement from her be a GOOD thing AllyCat Apr 2015 #76

Uh, I think it was onion-style wording, not lying. AllyCat Apr 2015 #73

How dare she believe that small businesses should get the same breaks as big ones! leftofcool Apr 2015 #3

How dare she believe aspirant Apr 2015 #8

and she said that? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #29

Did I put them in quotation marks? aspirant Apr 2015 #36

so the answer is...NO she didn't VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #37

So the answer is Yes she did aspirant Apr 2015 #46

Better, she voted for it as a Senator. Savannahmann Apr 2015 #55

thanks for paying attention to the record. it helps cut through the rhetoric. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #108

Obama said it too... BreakfastClub Apr 2015 #7

IMO small town small business is more threatened by WalMart & Big boxes HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #9

+1! Thank you. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #40

...! KoKo Apr 2015 #82

No offense, but politico, made up of ex-reagan repukes who go out of their way to disparage anything still_one Apr 2015 #11

"Looser" as in "more relaxed." Scuba Apr 2015 #14

I read it wrong, thanks. I read it as loser. still_one Apr 2015 #15

It's still a poorly constructed paragraph. randome Apr 2015 #20

yeah, but I should have read it more carefully. I don't think even an anti-Hillary article would be still_one Apr 2015 #23

Agree, Politico is definitely a RW leaning tool. nt Fla Dem Apr 2015 #48

There are alot of unnecessary red tape on small biz... JaneyVee Apr 2015 #16

The solution isn't necessarily elimination of the "red tape." Atman Apr 2015 #41

Confused DUer thinks Democratic candidate will come out in favor of unnecessary regulation on small onenote Apr 2015 #26

I now know you are claiming your op is satire. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #44

Or it's a version of the old stand-by "you know, -that- is a rightwing meme" HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #65

You link an article without any reference to follow, like the kind of information I read in the Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #53

See the following DU post for context... PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #103

I want, as someone who does not support Hillary, to dissassociate myself from your cali Apr 2015 #57

Did she mean Wall Street or small business enterprises? Rex Apr 2015 #58

Give us the answer if you have it. mmonk Apr 2015 #60

Small biz, if you go to the link it says exactly who she is talking about. Rex Apr 2015 #61

If she really means small business and not subsidiaries of large corporations, good for her. mmonk Apr 2015 #70

Well, look at her, she's a shiny new conservative ! whereisjustice Apr 2015 #59

Bullshit. Here's a link to a DU thread about the context MineralMan Apr 2015 #63

Excessive DEregulation is a much bigger problem. Orsino Apr 2015 #74

This OP is misleading... Sancho Apr 2015 #64

How about self-deleting. Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #66

Better yet, let's do H2O Man Apr 2015 #68

Satire has to be on point to be effective. Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #84

Interesting. H2O Man Apr 2015 #93

It isn't whether anyone gets it or not that i'm addressing Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #99

In that situation, H2O Man Apr 2015 #100

So are you aware of rumors, concerns, reports, etc. Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #102

There will be H2O Man Apr 2015 #104

According to a recent article, Wall Street is not worried about Hillary's populist speak. merrily Apr 2015 #67

Right, because true progressives just LOVE unnecessary red tape and regulation. pnwmom Apr 2015 #71

accidentally on purpose marmar Apr 2015 #72

Casting asparagus toward right wing Politico... Oilwellian Apr 2015 #79

Obvious Satire, DU should have a laugh track like the Daily Show to clear up the confusion. WillTwain Apr 2015 #80

Step right up..... Cryptoad Apr 2015 #81

Truth? L0oniX Apr 2015 #83

Ha Ha dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #107

Confused poster accidentally denies context to validate political bias. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #85

The article does not mention Goldman Sachs. KamaAina Apr 2015 #91

Correct Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #94

Hillary said the exact same thing to a bunch of Iowa small business owners daredtowork Apr 2015 #92

This is a stock line from every CATO/Heritage/AEI speech for 30 years Doctor_J Apr 2015 #98

Actually the line referred to the difficulty of starting businesses. See the following DU post... PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #101