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Stinky The Clown

(67,776 posts)
Sun May 6, 2012, 03:13 PM May 2012

So France bounces Sarkozy and Greece bounces them all. A morality play for US austerity proponents. [View all]

There are two basic philosophies.

Cut spending and shrink government (Right Wing) (The Wild West/Survival of the Richest/Ayn Rand philosophy).

Increase taxes and provide for all (Left Wing) (The socialistic philosophy).

The best path lies someplace between the two extremes. We need to move back to the left to get to the sweet spot.

Ever since Johnson left office this country has been drifting toward the Right. A little more to left at times, a little more to right at times, but always moving along a baseline path inexorably toward right wing conservatism.

In Europe, we have an opportunity to see how abject a failure is right wing austerity. They're spending less than nothing on social programs and their economies are in the crapper.

In this country we're watching Mitt Rmoney move to the right with every twitch from the tea bagger morons.

I think its time to tax everyone more, and to tax the wealthy until their eyes bleed. Take some of that right wing protected wealth back from the 'job creators" and, by government spending, create some actual jobs. By government spending in the form of tax incentives, reward those who actually *do* create jobs. Stop the tax breaks for those who clip coupons for a living (except for those who have retired modestly) and tax that inherited wealth as ordinary income. I think it is time that we make the term "tax hawk" more desirable than the totally misleading term "deficit hawk."

The issues can always be debated at the edges, but my essential point is that we need be raising taxes and increasing spending right now. Not later. Not cutting taxes and then cutting spending to pay for it. It is time we take punitive steps to those who hoard their wealth while they continue to amass it.

And maybe the citizens of France and Greece will show us the way.




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Son't forget Argentina and Iceland malaise May 2012 #1
Or South America, which has rejected the Global Corps for the past decade. sabrina 1 May 2012 #8
Venezuela, Ecuador, Paraguay, Uruguay, Peru, Bolivia, Brazil, Nicaragua, El Salvador... DutchLiberal May 2012 #10
Absolutely. There are plenty of examples of the failures of austerity. If they (the corporations) jwirr May 2012 #30
Iceland accepted IMF austerity measures in order to borrow billions. nt hack89 May 2012 #28
emulate france = have a candidate left of current management, which we do not nt msongs May 2012 #2
I don't think we should raise taxes significantly right now. girl gone mad May 2012 #3
Did you forget the sarcasm emoticon? You can't be serious, right? Lionessa May 2012 #4
Unfortunately, history doesn't back up your claim jeff47 May 2012 #11
Unfortunately, this presumption is not accurate in our present framework. girl gone mad May 2012 #12
Again, history does not agree with you. jeff47 May 2012 #14
Tax increases destroy dollars. girl gone mad May 2012 #15
That is a truly stunning amount of wrong to put into a single post. jeff47 May 2012 #16
"Money flows into that account via taxes and bond sales" girl gone mad May 2012 #17
Still wrong jeff47 May 2012 #19
Your post is totally off base. girl gone mad May 2012 #20
No, you only like to think it is jeff47 May 2012 #21
How has MMT been proven wrong by this current crisis? girl gone mad May 2012 #25
And now we shift again. jeff47 May 2012 #31
Winning the election while making promises of a great life is easy. Producing those results is hard. dkf May 2012 #5
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #6
When there is a referendum on whether the economy is in place to serve the citizens (or vice versa), Snarkoleptic May 2012 #7
Greeks gave 8% of the vote to neo-nazi party; for first time in 4 decades they'll be in parliament.. DutchLiberal May 2012 #9
The Greeks will be going back on the drachma with a 50% cut in the standard of living. FarCenter May 2012 #22
And the neo-nazi's are going to change that... how? DutchLiberal May 2012 #23
After a period of chaos, they will get a dictatorship of either the right or the left FarCenter May 2012 #24
Yes, hurrah for communist of fascist dictatorship! DutchLiberal May 2012 #26
France's citizens seem to have gotten it right. DevonRex May 2012 #13
Britain is a better morality play. bluestate10 May 2012 #18
The Greeks don't need to raise taxes hack89 May 2012 #27
Greeks spent several centuries avoiding taxes imposed by the Turks. FarCenter May 2012 #29
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