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libdem4life

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89. I'm a pragmatist...that seems to be forbidden in these parts. And about the money, is

Thu Apr 16, 2015, 12:32 PM

Apr 2015

right as I've brought that up many, many times...that's pragmatic. We, as people, can't go ten minutes without needing a corporation to provide services and goods. That's a fact. Same is true for politicians...and I covered this in an earlier post here.

I don't do Pie in the Sky. Sorry. Like saying never work for or buy anything from a corporation. Good luck with that. It's just that it gets to be a bigger necessity the higher one goes up the political ladder. I hadn't heard 2.5 billion. I know last time is was 1 billion.

Of course we all know that it was Citizen's United that make this possible.

The last sentence ... perhaps brighter minds than mine can answer the question...and it is a good one. There is a difference between party platforms and platitudes. Frankly, we are not far from Oligarchy...I've also stated that.

Good luck to us all...we're going to need it.

Peace out.

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Bernie Sanders: Every candidate for president must answer the following questions... [View all] Playinghardball Apr 2015 OP

The media will never ask these questions Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #1

Quick question...let's say the MSM asks...then what? libdem4life Apr 2015 #3

It will be fascinating to watch Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #5

Pretty sure they all have those answers down...sadly. libdem4life Apr 2015 #14

What do you think those answers might be? Eg Bernie, Sherrod Brown and Elizabeth Warren sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #65

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"they are job creators" Takket Apr 2015 #73

Don't you mean 29 hours? Flatulo Apr 2015 #84

What does this have to do with the MSN? libdem4life Apr 2015 #90

oops... nothing... i meant to reply to OP. Sorry. Takket Apr 2015 #118

... libdem4life Apr 2015 #119

Exactly...Baby steps though, we must at least have someone asking the question. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #102

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There is NO benefit to her to ignore us IF we financially support her. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #106

Sorry, I don't know where to find 50 million Democrats, let alone how to collect money. libdem4life Apr 2015 #107

Problem is unless we are donating to a VERY big movement where we know our $20 NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #108

MoveOn.Org is a well-known Democratic fundraiser non-profit. I just went there and libdem4life Apr 2015 #110

Familiar...well done NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #112

And they're the recipient of those billions in advertising dollars arcane1 Apr 2015 #33

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It's easy to come up with bullet points..even when they are true So, what, pray tell, is the a libdem4life Apr 2015 #2

The answer is to return the tax rates Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #4

Why is savings more important? Agschmid Apr 2015 #15

Because keeping money in one place fosters stability Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #114

Totally agree. Now it just needs to get through Congress. libdem4life Apr 2015 #111

Remove the arbitrary cap Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #113

Or at least up it $50,000 or more. But, oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth. libdem4life Apr 2015 #115

nonsense. And yeah, sorry, he does have an economic background- more so than many members cali Apr 2015 #6

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Reforming the tax system is very popular with the public cali Apr 2015 #24

A lot of things are popular...most people don't even understand their own taxes, but when libdem4life Apr 2015 #26

It's very telling that Bernie irritates you. Maedhros Apr 2015 #7

What irritates me is Pie in the Sky. I'll ignore the insult. IMHO, I think that is why libdem4life Apr 2015 #18

Bernie is simply speaking the truth. Maedhros Apr 2015 #27

Maybe if he got just a bit more specific...the Devil is in the Details. But Feel Good is OK, too nt libdem4life Apr 2015 #34

Maybe you should pay more attention to what Bernie says... ms liberty Apr 2015 #44

+1 BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #47

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Sorry you feel the need to judge, but it's OK. libdem4life Apr 2015 #19

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Well, this is clever. You want to have a discussion? Or just snark. Let me know. I'm good with it libdem4life Apr 2015 #29

A good candidate would take the issue to the voters. The people favor higher taxes on the wealthy. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #13

With all due respect, the only people whose opinions count are the voters. They elect those who libdem4life Apr 2015 #22

Yes. Voters! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #28

But the majority of these unhappy voters still vote the incumbents. That's history. libdem4life Apr 2015 #32

I disagree with you. It looks like everyone on this thread disagrees with you. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #35

Everyone on this thread? Go away? How original. libdem4life Apr 2015 #36

Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2015 #42

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This is how I feel! Liberalynn Apr 2015 #79

And even they won't know until they are in the actual position. I'll vote for the Democrat libdem4life Apr 2015 #91

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Yeah, right. He's not really running...she is. There is plenty of time for you to awaken libdem4life Apr 2015 #64

Awww I didn't mean to upset you. L0oniX Apr 2015 #75

Not to worry...A Liberal raised with Rightwingers devlops a pretty thick skin. Not easily libdem4life Apr 2015 #88

I love Bernie, I love the questions he asks. And more importantly the ANSWERS he gives to those sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #67

I'm a pragmatist...that seems to be forbidden in these parts. And about the money, is libdem4life Apr 2015 #89

My understanding of the word 'pragmatist' is someone who sees something that just is and cannot be sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #96

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this has to be against the tos. stonecutter357 Apr 2015 #70

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Kick. Agschmid Apr 2015 #16

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