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proud2BlibKansan

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11. Typical for TFA to coach their members to turn on one another
Sun May 6, 2012, 03:40 PM
May 2012

I'm calling this comment fishy.

Another thing - teachers with many many years experience struggle from year to year to "ensure that their students realized significant academic gains despite the chaotic conditions". Some years you get there, some years you don't. But first year teachers, especially TFAs with no experience, don't get there. Even Michelle Rhee admits she had no idea what she was doing when she started teaching. Since there is currently an investigation into questionable test scores in DC, I would be more likely to believe someone had a lucky pencil than to believe a first year teacher showed commendable academic gains.

I speak from experience. I've worked with TFA interns for 5 years now. This year I have 5 of them. I am mentoring them and am in each of their classrooms several hours every week. I meet with them before and after school once a week. I've seen them grow. 4 of the 5 are very good teachers. The other one is just taking more time to grow into the job. But award winning? No. Each of them will also admit any gains their students have made are due to the work of several teachers, support from the district, the students' parents and community volunteers who come in regularly to tutor. I consider that admission a great victory. TFA tells these kids they are the solution and all they have to do is walk into that classroom, work hard, and the kids will make great progress. The smart TFAs realize within a week that's bullshit. Children grow and learn because of the efforts of a team of people, beginning with their parents and involving several teachers at the school level. No one teacher works miracles. But TFA instills a lone wolf savior attitude into these kids that we have to work hard to correct.

So I am not surprised to see a TFA publicly criticize a peer as in this comment. It's a red flag to me.

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fishy story. HiPointDem May 2012 #1
Typical for TFA to coach their members to turn on one another proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #11
Are you saying the source story is suspect, the critical comment on it or both? I wrote coalition_unwilling May 2012 #27
You mean the story about being sued? proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #34
Right, I believe Kaplowitz was sued too. But the comment in response to him coalition_unwilling May 2012 #39
Districts always settle these cases proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #42
This is from 2003. girl gone mad May 2012 #2
there's more to the story, as you can kind of deduce from how it comes across. HiPointDem May 2012 #5
Sounds like someone doesn't like Josh. YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #10
Josh acknowledges the fact in his response. There were 2 TFA-ers from the same school HiPointDem May 2012 #12
Allow me to respond. YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #21
The fact that josh sent his problems to other teachers who *were* able to control them, HiPointDem May 2012 #22
The only asshat here that I can see is Josh himself. -n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #28
1. Some principals don't like that idea. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #36
+1 proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #14
Interesting. Quantess May 2012 #3
Damn. I think I have to take back every harsh comment I've made about teachers. dkf May 2012 #4
every hour has the potential to blow up demtenjeep May 2012 #6
Classroom management is critical proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #15
Wouldn't anyone? dkf May 2012 #29
Yes but TFAs have more problems proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #31
I grew up with teachers, liberalhistorian May 2012 #25
It's from the Manhattan Institute. Surprise! Sabriel May 2012 #7
I swear our teachers at DU also talk about the lack of support from admin. dkf May 2012 #8
If teacher does not have classroom management skills there will be no discipline in that classroom. HubertHeaver May 2012 #20
Without support from administration, a new teacher is in a tough place janet118 May 2012 #30
This language is a dead give-away of the right-wing attitudes and beliefs: coalition_unwilling May 2012 #18
+1. not only does josh blame everyone but himself for him not being able to control his class HiPointDem May 2012 #23
I don't know whether it's faux populism or whether he's a right-wing racist, but coalition_unwilling May 2012 #26
It happens. Apparently more than you realize. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #37
Well, as I thought, this is only part of the story, MadHound May 2012 #9
+1 xchrom May 2012 #13
See my comment above proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #16
Be that as it may, MadHound May 2012 #17
It's believable to me proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #32
Five weeks of training is a setup for failure. HubertHeaver May 2012 #19
It's insane. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #33
It's certainly setting them up for failure XemaSab May 2012 #44
Teach for America must die. KG May 2012 #24
My wife broke up a fight... meaculpa2011 May 2012 #35
A lot of people don't realize that an accusation is all it takes proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #38
Do you have any suggestions for what needs to change in the educational system to coalition_unwilling May 2012 #40
Lots of suggestions proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #41
IMHO XemaSab May 2012 #43
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