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In reply to the discussion: Passage Of TPP Will Be A Disaster For Dems Just Like NAFTA was. I'm Really Pissed. [View all]nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)in all three countries. So forgive me for not blaming people for pointing to trade agreements as one source of worst pay and job flight.
You might not expect that, but when you have the USTR saying that this (insert magical trade agreement here) will increase wages, standards of living and jobs, people sort of expect their government not to lie. And let's forget about the certainly obscure U.S.T.R...(though I have the propaganda from state filed away), when a PRESIDENT says that (clinton after the signing of NAFTA, Bush after the Colombia Trade, or Obama after CAFTA), I tend to forgive people for believing their leaders. We press critters will QUOTE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES when he says that.
And people, I know they are funny that way, WILL READ that, and for some reason, not anymore, believe that crap. Especially with NAFTA.
Funny thing, the same happens when the President of Mexico states the same shit, in a different language to his own PRESS CORP. For some silly shitty reason, press tends to quote Presidents. And the Canadian Press will do the same when in the case of NAFTA it was PM Mulroney singing the praises.
So forgive me. I cover this shit regularly, and these days if the U.S.T.R, and I get emails regularly from the office of the U.S.T.R, I am in the email list, sings the praises of a trade treaty, I need to check if indeed they are correct by reading, not just the treaty (when available), but a lot of shit from people who have a clue. Forgive me for saying this, but that is not you. What you are doing though is plenty of dodging and not really facing facts. These treaties are not good for the American middle class. or for that matter other middle classes.
But when both CATO and Brookings at times are singing from the same fucking sheet of music, in this case regarding the possible end of the WTO ... pigs are flying and we are having a problem with these treaties. Yes, CATO quoted Brookings, and not in a negative way.
Pigs do indeed fly.
I think we are both wasting our time, for the record.