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In reply to the discussion: The demands for Hillary loyalty are loud and clear on DU. [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)257. It's not ME telling myself--or you. It's in the TOS.
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Well, if you assume the H is Hillary and the arrow is meant to show where she is heading......
merrily
Apr 2015
#210
Yes, but myself and I think you would never get testy or angry with someone who said
NoJusticeNoPeace
Apr 2015
#53
I'd like the policies to go further left but the President does not do it alone
treestar
Apr 2015
#103
That's sarcasm, yes? Bkz calling anyone with concerns about Hillary a "basher" is NOT a debate.
DesertDiamond
Apr 2015
#196
I have no doubt you can point to individual examples of what you said but...
hrmjustin
Apr 2015
#214
I have no problem with that, but such challenges are not what the OP is about.
Jim Lane
Apr 2015
#232
What is not disputable is the trending downward trajectory of her approval rating among Dems
AtomicKitten
Apr 2015
#115
You are right and that is why I gave you the link to RealClearPolitics
VanillaRhapsody
Apr 2015
#154
The poster with whom you 'argue' (I use the word loosely, it's not a fair fight, you are winning in
MADem
Apr 2015
#178
I did read the entire thread ... I could go into detail but here is a response to your poll data
DrKZ
Apr 2015
#252
Once again you need to look at the studies (not polls not the misinformation highway)
DrKZ
Apr 2015
#198
I think you are trying to represent that a graphed line for a trend...regardless of that direction
Sheepshank
Apr 2015
#186
Kathleen Turner and you if what you are describing is true...is the anomaly not the norm
VanillaRhapsody
Apr 2015
#255
They support who they are told to support. Heard mentality. too lazy to think for themselves.
bowens43
Apr 2015
#65
And insulting the vast majority of Democrats who support Clinton in the Democratic Party
VanillaRhapsody
Apr 2015
#176
the demand on "Democratic Underground" to vote for a Democrat....is "counterproductive"??
VanillaRhapsody
Apr 2015
#180
yeah, appearing to demand, or assuming so many demand that people stop demanding is a total turn off
Sheepshank
Apr 2015
#242
Your question is based on assumptions that, as I point out, are not yet proven to be true.
JDPriestly
Apr 2015
#25
Its VERY important....but not AS important as the FACT that she also polls
VanillaRhapsody
Apr 2015
#47
As a supporter of Hillary, I hope you are doing what you can to insure that differential lasts
JDPriestly
Apr 2015
#50
Not so much a warning as the voice of experience. I've watched a lot of election cycles.
JDPriestly
Apr 2015
#108
The thing about such a poll number is Americans do enjoy seeing people fail
HereSince1628
Apr 2015
#76
Oh I get you now...her 75% polling numbers is all because of media....
VanillaRhapsody
Apr 2015
#110
Yes. Not only the bandwagon fallacy but also the phenomenon of peaking too soon.
RufusTFirefly
Apr 2015
#85
Yeah enjoy it while you can....its been such for oh over a year now....
VanillaRhapsody
Apr 2015
#100
Yes. I was not living in the US at the time but still read about it in a foreign newspaper.
JDPriestly
Apr 2015
#130
No--compliance is the currency YOU spend to enter the venue. No one "demands" that you willingly
MADem
Apr 2015
#163
i make no assumptions. i am excited ot listen to others that jump in. demand? what?
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#15
The safest place to be on a liberal or conservative board is to stake out...
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#38
A couple of issues that are important to me are TPP and other trade agreements, charter
JDPriestly
Apr 2015
#43
this is the number 1 reason i am not a clinton supporter and yet, if she gets the nod, you can damn
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#58
Great post. I appreciate the fact that you stay on issue while others seem to
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#60
I will vote according to my conscience ...and I ain't selling my soul to the 1% to win.
L0oniX
Apr 2015
#107
No. Responding to criticisms of a candidate with personal insults directed at a DUer is not
morningfog
Apr 2015
#125
The constant barrage of hate, invective, and criticism is bound to result in pushback.../NT
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#128
When the criticism is often baseless, slanted, and repetitive folks are going to respond...
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#144
What is insulting about suggesting that when a person upsets another person
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#184
If posters weren't calling out other posters , implicitly or explicitly, DU would suck much less.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#190
Funny the only ones I read proclaiming Hillary is inevitable are not her supporters.
Thinkingabout
Apr 2015
#158
I glad to see you have such contempt for us people who don't have mops on top of our heads
nolabels
Apr 2015
#192
No, not at all, the problem i have with the 'wink and nod' is the ploy of it.
nolabels
Apr 2015
#235
All candidates need to be asked, "What do you have to do for all of that money?"
Dustlawyer
Apr 2015
#164
Support whatever candidate you want in the primaries, and advocate for that candidate. Because
still_one
Apr 2015
#177
Thanks for writing what I was trying to formulate in my head. Well said!
DesertDiamond
Apr 2015
#195
We went through this in 2007 and 2008. No thanks. Hillary has to earn my vote. Period!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2015
#213
Dude, you are NOT a persecuted minority at DU, so don't try to guilt anyone.
McCamy Taylor
Apr 2015
#230
Precisely. And it weakens our party because the primary is the period in which we get to
JDPriestly
Apr 2015
#243
As of now, Clinton is the only declared candidate. Where should our loyalties lie?
George II
Apr 2015
#246