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In reply to the discussion: Dieting results in long term changes to hormones and muscle fibers. [View all]eridani
(51,907 posts)274. Energy input required for burning protein is lower that required for burning fat
http://www.bodypeptalk.com/2012/02/18/what-happens-when-you-dont-get-enough-calories/
When the energy output is greater than the energy input, there is a negative energy balance. This means that the body has to find ways to obtain extra energy to match the expenditure and balance the equation. This energy comes from body storages, mainly glycogen[2] and fat. Dont get too excited, though, because burning fat as fuel is not as easy as it seems. Before mobilizing fat, the body uses glucose stored in the liver because this is the fastest way to obtain energy. However, the glycogen storage is very limited, and if the energy shortage persists, the body has to come up with a different solution.
You must be thinking, Now well be using fat, right? Wrong! The problem is that fat can only be used for energy in a few body tissues; our nervous system, for instance, is not one of them. The brain can only use glucose as fuel. Since fat cannot be converted into glucose, the body starts breaking down protein for energy, protein that comes from your hard-working muscles and other lean tissues. In addition, as you consume your own body protein, large amounts of water are lost in the process. Thats how people obtain rapid weight-loss through very low calorie diets. In reality, they are not burning fat at all just muscle and water.
If the low calorie intake persists, the bodys last alternative is a process called ketosis. Ketosis is the partial breakdown of fat which creates compounds known as ketone bodies. The upside is that half of the brain cells can use these compounds for energy, momentarily sparing muscles and other lean tissues from being consumed. However, ketosis upsets the acid-base balance of the blood which can harm the body. In addition, the body ultimately shifts into a conservation mode, slowing down the metabolism in order to save energy. This makes you feel sluggish and fatigued.
When the energy output is greater than the energy input, there is a negative energy balance. This means that the body has to find ways to obtain extra energy to match the expenditure and balance the equation. This energy comes from body storages, mainly glycogen[2] and fat. Dont get too excited, though, because burning fat as fuel is not as easy as it seems. Before mobilizing fat, the body uses glucose stored in the liver because this is the fastest way to obtain energy. However, the glycogen storage is very limited, and if the energy shortage persists, the body has to come up with a different solution.
You must be thinking, Now well be using fat, right? Wrong! The problem is that fat can only be used for energy in a few body tissues; our nervous system, for instance, is not one of them. The brain can only use glucose as fuel. Since fat cannot be converted into glucose, the body starts breaking down protein for energy, protein that comes from your hard-working muscles and other lean tissues. In addition, as you consume your own body protein, large amounts of water are lost in the process. Thats how people obtain rapid weight-loss through very low calorie diets. In reality, they are not burning fat at all just muscle and water.
If the low calorie intake persists, the bodys last alternative is a process called ketosis. Ketosis is the partial breakdown of fat which creates compounds known as ketone bodies. The upside is that half of the brain cells can use these compounds for energy, momentarily sparing muscles and other lean tissues from being consumed. However, ketosis upsets the acid-base balance of the blood which can harm the body. In addition, the body ultimately shifts into a conservation mode, slowing down the metabolism in order to save energy. This makes you feel sluggish and fatigued.
Admittedly, this oversimplifies variations among individuals, who vary in their metabolic preferences for breaking down fat as opposed to lean tissue for energy. Mice and rats have been bred who lose really large percentages of lean tissue for energy rather than relying on fat.
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Self control being defined as eating the right foods in the right quantities
Taitertots
May 2012
#15
Gay people could become straight is they were willing to accept discomfort also
eridani
May 2012
#72
LOL, you are not what I call an understanding person. But I bet you know that!
Logical
May 2012
#243
No. Merely statistically improbable, at least when talking about significant poundage.
eridani
May 2012
#121
Ah so the Japanese and Europeans must be a different species from us
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#245
You can't change genetics, and you can't change environmental factors either as an individual
eridani
May 2012
#271
The same exercise and diet program leads to widely disparate results for different people
eridani
May 2012
#292
Sorry, what? I missed that in the article.Who wouldn't feel hungry on a 500-calorie-per-day diet?
Habibi
May 2012
#38
Right. Craziness. Nobody can feel good on a 500-cal-a-day diet. It's wrong and stupid and harmful.
Habibi
May 2012
#50
Reasonable portion sizes should leave you feeling content and not gaining weight
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#167
What doesn't matter is the weight loss results from eating less and exercising more
eridani
May 2012
#198
Given the reality that human metabolic controls prefer fat to lean body weight--
eridani
May 2012
#221
Energy input required for burning protein is lower that required for burning fat
eridani
May 2012
#274
Keeping on with what you are doing does not necessarily result in further weight loss
eridani
May 2012
#16
Since when does reporting how the rest of the world reacts to a 50 lb weight loss--
eridani
May 2012
#177
But if the physical activity you enjoy and have time for does not result in significant weight loss-
eridani
May 2012
#67
What you are talking about is a mindfulness about training that many aren't motivated to share.
eridani
May 2012
#197
Since I fixed it without losing a single pound, the correlation is meaningless in the real world
eridani
May 2012
#222
Yes, it should. But is is absolutely nutz to assume that it will lead to significant weight loss
eridani
May 2012
#118
You can make changes to your habits, but that may or may not result in significant weight loss
eridani
May 2012
#123
I found studying the diets of Asia and the Mideast taught me how to spice vegetables.
alfredo
May 2012
#27
That's because you need some protein and fat with every meal to feel full
nobodyspecial
May 2012
#23
Except that if you try to adjust caloric intake and energy output by force of will--
eridani
May 2012
#69
Awesome thanks! from your earlier post I thought one of them was the 4-hour body..
truebrit71
May 2012
#212
Pot smoking & masturbating frequently to porn are two of the best things men can do for their health
Warren DeMontague
May 2012
#55
If you cheat and have 86% of your subjects be male, of course you will get better results
eridani
May 2012
#148
There are only 99 other people like her who did the same thing and didn't lose much weight
eridani
May 2012
#105
An obese person who exercises more and eats a healthier diet will also reap a lot of health benefits
eridani
May 2012
#310
+1 I switched from Ranch dressing to the make your own variety a few years ago
SlimJimmy
May 2012
#98
Well bully for you. Very few fat women start out with a habit of eating 4000 calories a day
eridani
May 2012
#106
The info isn't necessary to convince me of that. Reality is sufficient all by itself.
eridani
May 2012
#119
Modest weight loss leaves fat people with exactly the same levels of public abuse as before.
eridani
May 2012
#139
I guess that explains all those skinny athletic kids with type II diabetes
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#188
There has been no increase in the number of people genetically predisposed toward diabetes
eridani
May 2012
#226
Type II diabetes is not "divorced from" obesity. The same genes cause both diabetes and obesity
eridani
May 2012
#276
A great example about why focusing on weight loss instead of health is a bad idea
eridani
May 2012
#234
So it doesn't matter to you whether cold symptoms are caused by viruses or bacteria?
eridani
May 2012
#260
That is absolute crap, period. But if human bodies were bomb calorimeters, you'd be right.
eridani
May 2012
#193
You're right, people are amazing machines, capable of greater than 100% efficiency
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#214
The human body is constrained by physics. This does not mean that physics explains
eridani
May 2012
#230
Wrong. Reducing calorie intake and increasing activity shifts metabolic equilibrium--
eridani
May 2012
#273
I agree. Eating charcoal briquettes or drinking gasoline is a very bad idea n/t
eridani
May 2012
#194
Funny, but that's what a lot of anorexic women say a few years before they die n/t
eridani
May 2012
#202
Intense physical exertion is the key not starvation. Working out also changes muscles and hormones
Edweird
May 2012
#207
And if you don't have time to to enough of it to lose signifcant amounts of weight?
eridani
May 2012
#231
Then you might as well 'live it up' and just not worry about weight loss and just enjoy the ride...
Edweird
May 2012
#252
The thing about all these environmental factors is that we can't do anything about them--
eridani
May 2012
#233
Maybe someone could start a thread where posters could be irrational about muscle tissue
eridani
May 2012
#235
They never talk about auto-immune disease--Hashimoto's thyroiditis,
Manifestor_of_Light
May 2012
#269
For the same reason I argue with people who think gay people should stay in the closet
eridani
May 2012
#287